Why no UK laws on vehicle emergency kits (1 Viewer)

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Just wondering if anyone knows why in this highly legislated health & safety mad country. We are still not required to carry all the emergency kit the Europeans have to. Including the spare glasses etc, jackets, bulbs, fire extinguishers etc etc. All sounds really sensible, so why not ???
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I suspect largely because mostly we carry one of these, which replaces the need for any item shown above:
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Not sure an iPhone can replace a warning triangle a pair of spare glasses or a fire extinguisher.....and if its an iPhone it will probably have a flat battery or one very soon :party2:

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Just wondering if anyone knows why in this highly legislated health & safety mad country. We are still not required to carry all the emergency kit the Europeans have to. Including the spare glasses etc, jackets, bulbs, fire extinguishers etc etc. All sounds really sensible, so why not ???
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Well. The law of averages says we should get at least one right... (y)
 
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Just wondering if anyone knows why in this highly legislated health & safety mad country. We are still not required to carry all the emergency kit the Europeans have to. Including the spare glasses etc, jackets, bulbs, fire extinguishers etc etc. All sounds really sensible, so why not ???
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Are you complaining that we are a "health and safety mad country" or asking for more legislation?
 
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Are you complaining that we are a "health and safety mad country" or asking for more legislation?
Just asking why the UK has not adopted the rest of the EU's sensible approach to carrying emergency kit.

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Often surprise me so few people carry hi vis in case of emergencies - very few carry a triangle

All our vehicle carry the following
Hi- vis for all occupants
First aid kit - been used for others in trouble !!
Fire extinguisher - been used to help others
Warning triangles min 2
All our number plates are euro compliant with the GB bit

on my motor always carry ( I am the only one to travel over seas)
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spare driving glasses (I am the only one that needs them)

Waste of time carrying spare bulbs - they are all LEDs these days
 
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Often surprise me so few people carry hi vis in case of emergencies - very few carry a triangle

All our vehicle carry the following
Hi- vis for all occupants
First aid kit - been used for others in trouble !!
Fire extinguisher - been used to help others
Warning triangles min 2
All our number plates are euro compliant with the GB bit

on my motor always carry ( I am the only one to travel over seas)
beam benders
Breathalysers
spare driving glasses (I am the only one that needs them)

Waste of time carrying spare bulbs - they are all LEDs these days
Yes used the hi VI's jackets and warning triangle when the car broke down on a corner on a single track country road :Eeek:
 

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Just asking why the UK has not adopted the rest of the EU's sensible approach to carrying emergency kit.
Perfectly simple. Those referred to earlier on another thread as paranoid ranters would be up in arms about their freedoms being eroded :LOL:

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Just to add to your list of things other countries insist you have with you when driving.

In the 1980's the UAE required you to have your Driving Licence on you and that had to show your Blood Group.
 

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Spare bulbs? Your not exempt with led's they do fail but, have you tried changing a bulb on most modern vehicles, many require the removal of large pieces of bodywork, I had to change a drl on our Hymer this weekend, it was possible but, not exactly easy!
 

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Spare bulbs? Your not exempt with led's they do fail but, have you tried changing a bulb on most modern vehicles, many require the removal of large pieces of bodywork, I had to change a drl on our Hymer this weekend, it was possible but, not exactly easy!

Apart from the fact that we don't have the police coverage to do it I suspect this is one of the reasons why there are so many one eyed cars about these days. Its not a 2 min fix on the side of the road any more.

Likewise with LED units they are not LED bulbs they are units and to carry around a spare set would be seen as unrealistic and for most to change them would be impossible without workshop experience.

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We are by lew have to carry a frist aid kit and fire extinguisher in our taxi but not aloud to use them just in case we get sued the world gone mad
 

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Spare bulbs? Your not exempt with led's they do fail but, have you tried changing a bulb on most modern vehicles, many require the removal of large pieces of bodywork, I had to change a drl on our Hymer this weekend, it was possible but, not exactly easy!
Having been on the continent, I had a spare bulb set in my car. So when I turned on my headlamps at my mothers house, and I noticed that there was a headlamp out, no problem I thinks.
2 Hours later, after removing the wheel, the inner arch (and all associated fittings) then removing the rear of the headlamp assembly through a hole only a gynaecologist would normally work through, I finally replaced the headlamp bulb. Interesting that it is not compulsory to carry a jack, since on my car it is not possible to replace the headlamp bulb without one!
 
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Just because it is not legally required does not, of course, prevent the sensible motorist carrying what s/he deems to be the most useful kit - you should see the stuff I carry just in case (much of it probably comes from being a coach driver in an earlier life!

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I suspect largely because mostly we carry one of these, which replaces the need for any item shown above:
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If I ever cut an artery in a roadside incident I will try using my IPhone as a plaster to stem the blood......:D:D


There will likely be instructions in the far King useless app ?
 

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If I ever cut an artery in a roadside incident I will try using my IPhone as a plaster to stem the blood......:D:D


There will likely be instructions in the far King useless app ?
You could always dial 999, much more useful if one has severed an artery than a plaster! :D
 

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You could always dial 999, much more useful if one has severed an artery than a plaster! :D

And sit there in the knowledge I'm going to bleed to death long before the medics arrive ?

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You see this is why I hate poor legislation.

Having appropriate safety equipment in your vehicle (and knowing how to use it) is common sense.
Having a law to say you must have said gear is pointless without the sense of how & when to use it. Benefits those who sell it and encourages the blame culture when it doesn't prevent damage or injury... then the insurance to cover that...
 
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You could always dial 999, much more useful if one has severed an artery than a plaster! :D
Considering the lack of police and ambulance cover due to cutbacks, it could be a long game of candy crush....
 
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You see this is why I hate poor legislation.

Having appropriate safety equipment in your vehicle (and knowing how to use it) is common sense.
Having a law to say you must have said gear is pointless without the sense of how & when to use it. Benefits those who sell it and encourages the blame culture when it doesn't prevent damage or injury... then the insurance to cover that...
So how do most of the EU manage ? Are they more intelligent drivers ?

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Does the "rest of the EU" have better "results" because of their laws - however that might be measured.
Are there less accidents or injuries because of this compulsory kit?
I don't know.
If yes then there might be a case but I'd still prefer the ' best advice' or public education route before rushing out nto yet more legislation.
 

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Hi viz and warning triangle is sensible, the rest is pointless.

Bulbs- are there any on a car that need replacing so urgently that you would do it at the side of the road in the dark? Nope thought not.

Fire extinguisher- if my car catches fire it can burn, I won't be going near it with a piddly little extinguisher, I'll be up wind calling the fire brigade.

Don't understand the point of DIY breathalysers, if you are the sort of person to drive after drinking then you won't use them and even if you did you would ignore the result.

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It could undoubtedly be an advantage to you, I or another in the event of a mishap on the road to have some, if not most, of the gear listed Campacola you are right.

If government makes it a requirement, next thing you know all cars sold have it in the boot. That's what has happened in many countries.

Have a commercial lobby anxious to keep costs down and a political climate given to the Laissez-faire and you have our empty boots.

As to the nonsense that it is somehow because of the paranoid defender's of freedom?:LOL: why would they care if it cost a few extra quid to put a car on the forecourt?

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You see this is why I hate poor legislation.

(and knowing how to use it) is common sense.
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that'd rule out about 20 million drivers.:LOL:

So how do most of the EU manage ? Are they more intelligent drivers ?
No we have fines.:LOL:
Driving van & no fire ext.= fine
driving car & no fire ext = ok
driving car & towing & having no fire ext= fine
No 2 warning triangles = fine
not placing warning triangles in road at the requisite distance ( which vary according to the roads speed limit ) =fine
No reflective vests = fine
Get out without wearing one, & that includes yer dog = fine.
First aid kit in van obligatory but not car unless towing.
fire ext in van obligatory
Best money maker they used to have was the " failure to stop " when there was an accident & "failure to offer assistance"
etc;etc.
Are there less accidents or injuries because of this compulsory kit?
I don't know.
Not here there isn't
At major public holidays, Easter; Christmas, Summer getaway ( July-August) or "Operation Straits" , that's the annual exodus of Arabs across To Morocco & runs from June until September there are 000's of additional Trafico units on the road . Doesn't make the slightest difference. We even get daily & /or weekend casualty/death rates - No one takes the slightest notice unless they know someone who it has affected. Just becomes like the weather or news.
 

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Often surprise me so few people carry hi vis in case of emergencies - very few carry a triangle
Because no one in his or her right mind wishes to go mincing off down a duel carriageway to bu**er about with a blow over triangle! It breaks down, I want out, with everyone else, and well out of the way of any half asleep Polish trucker. Wearing high viz dosent stop you being run over, however, it does help when their searching for your corpse. (y)

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