What An Experience ???? (1 Viewer)

Mimi

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'I can't believe it' as Victor Meldrew would say.

Looking for my first motorhome my Son and I travelled from Essex to Malvern, no mean feat but the motorhome advertised seemed to be worth the mileage.

Arrangements were made with seller on Wednesday evening to view yesterday. The seller knew we were travelling from Essex to Malvern so not a short distance by any means and it took us the best part of 3.4 hours jut to get there.

When the advert appeared on Wednesday 10th it was £29995.
The understanding by us that the price was the amount he was expecting.
Having looked over the motorhome I offered £28000, which was refused, I expected that, so I offered the full asking price £29995. I was prepared to hand over a deposit, shake hands on it and the deal would be done. The seller said he had other viewings and expected to get offers above the advertised price of £29995. Basically although he didn't accept my offer of the full asking price he is prepared to try a gazumping process.
I informed him I was not prepared to get into a bidding war and as he had advertised it at £29995 that should be it. To do this practice is totally out of order and that is why I am writing this.

Having returned home and looked again on the Autotrader website he has increased it to £33000 !!!

The point being that we went all that way preparing to pay the asking price only to find he had no intention of selling at that price and it seems like misrepresentation an I can't believe anyone could do that, also he was a member also the Caravan Club, perhaps right or wrong I assumed members be decent people.
 
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CC members are just people like every one else, some are good some aren't. He's obviously had a good response to his advert, and thinks he's advertised it to cheap.

Ian

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I would love to see it still for sale in a few weeks time and you can then offer £27K :D

But seriously if he had made a mistake, what he should have done is call you to say the price was wrong then you have the choice of going or not

What MH is he selling, was it really under priced?
 
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Perhaps he isn't bothered about selling it , just trying it to see how much he can get, if he gets a big enough offer let it go, is he some sort of back street dealer. Being a member of cc is neither here or there.
 
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That's disgusting. I wouldn't have been happy at all & would be using the " ask a question " facility on the ebay add to point it out !

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No one said this wAs on eBay did they? If this is the case , was it a biding advert, in which case the seller was in the right.
 
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I dont agree with him putting the price up, BUT you thought it perfectly reasonable to try and knock him down by £2000. Whats the difference ?.
 
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I dont agree with him putting the price up, BUT you thought it perfectly reasonable to try and knock him down by £2000. Whats the difference ?.

Its part of the fun of haggling. We always place anything we are selling higher knowing full well 9 times out of 10 we will be cut down.
I think the seller was bang out of order and think of the wasted fuel costs incurred by the OP.

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Think you got of lightly...sounds a dodgy character. Incidentally how old and what make was the van. Basically what's payload like and had there been a damp survey...hell of a load of lemons out here!
 
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Think you got of lightly...sounds a dodgy character. Incidentally how old and what make was the van. Basically what's payload like and had there been a damp survey...hell of a load of lemons out here!
Wouldn't have thought there was much up with it or he would have been glad to get rid
 
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Its part of the fun of haggling. We always place anything we are selling higher knowing full well 9 times out of 10 we will be cut down.
I think the seller was bang out of order and think of the wasted fuel costs incurred by the OP.

I understand haggling having been involved with one sort of dealing or another all my life. But dont complain when it does not go in your favour. I already said I do not agree with the seller putting the price up which I think is out of order, some sellers do not like to have the micky taken by potential purchasers trying it on. If a seller has set the price realistic, which in this case it obviously was as the potential purchaser was willing to pay the full price, why try and beat him down.
 
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'Sellers remorse' ....he's had a lot of enquiries/ interest, thinks he is selling too cheap especially as you offered full asking price............ sold my van a year ago, had two people interested and I got the asking price and was happy... he may regret turning down your offer, selling MHs is not always that easy


:)
 
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Is this the one?

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Not good practice especially when he knew you were travelling some distance :mad:

Thanks Antony

very well found that man (y)

the seller clearly has a different interpretation of 'best offer' maybe he is Scottish, their house selling system seems to go along these lines

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Is this the one?

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Not good practice especially when he knew you were travelling some distance :mad:

Thanks Antony
If this is the advert , he's right but it is a bit backwards , the first price you would take as offers upto that price not over, but the higher price does indicate he wants more
 
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I might offer the knobhead 35k and dick him about by arranging to meet up and obviously not turn up, see how he likes it when he's wasted his money
The asking price was 30k, if he's made a mistake then he should have done his research before wasting other peoples time and hard earned dollar
 
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The fact his opening price is only a fiver short of £30,000 suggests to me he was trying to grab peoples' attention with a view to increasing the price if a lot of people responded. I mean seriously, who cares about the odd fiver when buying a motorhome? If he wanted an auction he should have auctioned it.

I think the seller was out of order - the seller should name a price and either stick to it or drop it a bit. If some dickhead at a car boot sale says "What do you want to pay me for it?" I walk away.

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What a disappointment.. the seller may well be within his legal rights to refuse the offer, but ethically and morally ? .. IMO wrong..
Looking at similar vans for sale, he is now looking for the same price as a dealer.. greed comes to mind.. he may well live to regret his decision.

@DavidG58
Not sure where the Scottish reference means .. but back in the 70s, I sold my house to emigrate to RSA .. Without even advertising, word got round it was up for sale and a buyer came to the door, offered me £9k, (I paid only £3.5 a few years earlier so thought it a good offer) .. so I accepted , a shake of the hand sealed the deal..

I had lots of other callers who offered more but I never broke my word.. selling a house in Scotland a hand shake seals a deal.. not so in England where gazumping is almost a sport
 
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Is this the one?

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Not good practice especially when he knew you were travelling some distance :mad:

Thanks Antony
If that is the one then I`d be wary as the photo`s have a different Reg No (VRN) on number 1 and 20 ? ,or is that the reason for the price increase as you get 2 vehicles and numbers for the price of one ! :)
 
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Highwayman1

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Aah just read the advert and it does mention the VRN not being included DOH

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Not sure where the Scottish reference means ..

I am sure I have seen wording on Scottish house sales along the lines of 'offers around' which in Scotland seems to mean offers over, houses rarely seem to sell for the advertised prices in Scotland, just an observation (or possibly something I have dreamt up) :)
 
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I am sure I have seen wording on Scottish house sales along the lines of 'offers around' which in Scotland seems to mean offers over, houses rarely seem to sell for the advertised prices in Scotland, just an observation (or possibly something I have dreamt up) :)

No you didn't dream it David, though most I have seen say offers in excess of and then purely making an offer is deemed as contractual so you really have to have the funds in place before opening your mouth up there, but it avoids all the Gazumping that can occur elsewhere.

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I am sure I have seen wording on Scottish house sales along the lines of 'offers around' which in Scotland seems to mean offers over, houses rarely seem to sell for the advertised prices in Scotland, just an observation (or possibly something I have dreamt up) :)
At the moment David although houses may have offers over it is possible to make an offer under the asking price and get it - depending of course on local market. There are a good few houses near us that if reasonable offers under the price were made I am sure they would accept as have been on the market for years. It is even accepted that with fixed price houses a lower offer can be made (and accepted)

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No you didn't dream it David, though most I have seen say offers in excess of and then purely making an offer is deemed as contractual so you really have to have the funds in place before opening your mouth up there, but it avoids all the Gazumping that can occur elsewhere.
Although it Is thought that once you make an offer and it accepted in Scotland that the deal is binding that is not the case. We made and had an offer accepted for a house but several weeks down the line the adjoining landowner who had a covanant to do with the land which the house sat on had made so many strange email requests to our solicitor that I asked if we could get out of the deal. My solicitor said yes and the deal was cancelled with no loss to us.

Kath
 
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Hi,:hi: so sorry to hear of your wasted trip, hope he ends up having to sell it cheaper than the price you were going to give him.:roflmto:. I am a true believer in it wasn't meant to be, there's a far better van out there with your name on it(y) and you never know there could have been all kinds wrong with it. (hope there was) Best of luck and hope you find what you are looking for good hunting. Mew & Mick

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I've just had a shuftie on autotrader and there are quite a few Nuevos on there and he seems to be asking way over what he should for it now, regardless of mileage, as there are a few dealers with some for less and obviously you get their back-up facilities too (and they WILL haggle!).

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Personally I'd be wary of a MH that has only done 5,500 miles in what could be nearly 6 years as it means it's hardly moved so issues such as 'square' tyres could crop up etc... me I'd rather have one with a bit of mileage instead.
 
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Well I've always advertised goods at the price I would like to get ( in an ideal world) but with a figure in mind that I am prepared to drop to. Unless it's on eBay, then I start lower and hope it goes up. Maybe I,m doing it wrong?

I don't think the seller was very fair, particularly in view of your journey. He should have rung you and given you the chance to back out or increase your offer to the price he felt more reasonable. Not a good way to conduct a sale in my opinion.
 
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