E-bike scare posts (1 Viewer)

[klaus Knaus]

interesting to read all the earlier horror stories about e-bikes with twist grips being illegal in Spain. Since we got here it's clear no-one gives a toss and the problem just doesn't exist.
Off for another ride in the sunshine now

 

[Judge Mental]

So very nice of you to offer to underwrite any one unfortunate enough to get fined...such generosity! more power to your convictions

 

[hilldweller]

Talk about tempting fate. You'll have to forgive the sniggering from FUN as you count out the €1000.

But good luck to you.

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[DABurleigh]

I've got deja vue over A-frames.

Dave

 

[scotjimland]

I've got deja vue over A-frames.

Dave

how do you write that in decimal ?

 

[klaus Knaus]

Well I certainly wouldn't want to be judgemental about this but the world and his wife is riding around on twist grip e-bikes round here and no-one (campers or site personnel) has heard of any issues with them at all

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[irnbru]

I will take the risk when we eventually get to Spain.

 

[mickymouse]

Guardia Civil and local police really don't seem interested in cyclists. have never even spoken to me when I have been riding my bike down a one way street the wrong way and they have been coming the other direction.

 

[cruiser]

now there is a funster. admitting he drives the wrong way down a one way street.

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[Larrynwin]

now there is a funster. admitting he drives the wrong way down a one way street.

He was only going one way

 

[cruiser]

but the wrong way. and I can do that.. because I am a funster.

 

[Dave and Ginny]

It does seem that this lady that had a huge fine is an isolated case. I gather it was posted on a C&CC site notice board last year in Spain. Having already spent £600 on a bike that's only 18 months old I'm loath to spend another £900 to get another!

I can just see us cycling about in Spain and seeing ebikes with throttles all over the place

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[Granjan]

We will use our A & S bikes too ... But maybe more in France than Spain, suppose the problems would really escalate if we hit someone with the bike!

 

[Phill D]

i guess the issue is if you are breaking the law and you are involved in an incident...... then

its like having no insurance, matters not until you are involved in an incident..

 

[hilldweller]

It does seem that this lady that had a huge fine is an isolated case. I gather it was posted on a C&CC site notice board last year in Spain.

Maybe it was an attitude problem, a little friendly warning and she laid into the cop. Who knows ?

Last Mar we did a fair bit of cycling in Spain. Never had a moment's trouble in Germany, Italy. And will be throttling in Italy in 4 months.

But the choice is yours.

I have the option on my bike insurance to ride other bikes, so, maybe, if it's a motorbike at least I would be insured, maybe.

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[Puddleduck]

It does seem that this lady that had a huge fine is an isolated case. I gather it was posted on a C&CC site notice board last year in Spain. Having already spent £600 on a bike that's only 18 months old I'm loath to spend another £900 to get another!

I can just see us cycling about in Spain and seeing ebikes with throttles all over the place

Perhaps the report on the C&CC board did not give the whole story. Since we weren't there we will never know but could it be that she was involved in an accident?

 

[Judge Mental]

dont think so, she just refused to pay the 4000 € fine and ended up in court, where fine was upheld and she got hit with another 400€ for her trouble. from earlier threads it was a reprint of spanish newspaper article. Thing is if its the only one which i somehow doubt, a precedent has now been set. as has been said unlikely to get pulled in a tourist town..more chance by traffic police if they can be bothered.

obviously an incident or accident and situation COULD change dramatically. at the end of the day it really is a lot nicer and safer to ride legal e bikes and IMO they are far better bikes...sorry guys. Also while its fine to do your own thing and ignore the risk, encouraging others to do so out of order....we are all adults capable of our own decisions

 

[Techno]

We will use our A & S bikes too ... But maybe more in France than Spain, suppose the problems would really escalate if we hit someone with the bike!

A&S bikes have 3 position twist grips so you don't have to ride it on electric only.

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[petrol tin glyn]

So if you ride electric bike in spain with throttle its against the law but not in france, when in spain don"t put the battery on the bike then its a normal bike is that ok ???

 

[Puddleduck]

It's against the law in France as well (so I am told) but the law isn't enforced.

From what I have read, within the EU it's only in the UK that a throttle of up to 15.5mph is legal. In Germany you can have a throttle of up to 6kph but even that would be illegal in Spain. This is assuming I correctly understand what I have read of course.

Personally I would be happy to register my ebike with the DVLA (already have 3rd party and theft insurance but might need to upgrade it) and put on number plates but as it is already legal in the UK the DVLA won't allow this.

It's a funny old world.

 

[Dave and Ginny]

We have been looking about for a replacement bike for Ginny but It's unlikely we will find anything suitable before we head off to Spain in a couple of weeks.

I'm by no means suggesting this is the answer, or in anyway makes the bike legal, but I have managed to disconnect the throttle wire at the control box and now her Pro Rider just provides motor assist only when the pedals are being rotated.

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[hilldweller]

I have managed to disconnect the throttle wire at the control box .

I'd put a self tapper in the grip so a dim witted cop can see it does not turn.

 

[Dave and Ginny]

I'd put a self tapper in the grip so a dim witted cop can see it does not turn.

Good idea, easily done

 

[BigClick]

This site is a great resource for legality discussion and evrything else e-bike or pedelec related
http://www.pedelecs.co.uk

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[Puddleduck]

I'd put a self tapper in the grip so a dim witted cop can see it does not turn.

That's what AS Bikes recommend. Stops the throttle turning in places where the throttle is illegal and easily removed when you get home.

 

[hilldweller]

That's what AS Bikes recommend. Stops the throttle turning in places where the throttle is illegal and easily removed when you get home.

But it's only a bluff because the bike has not been certified to the standard and will not be marked as the standard demands, so it's quite wrong for them to give this advice as suppliers.

I just suggested it as better than nothing.

 

[Judge Mental]

IF they can be bothered, they will be looking for sticker on frame stating bike is EN1594 compliant. both our different make german bikes have these on front of lower frame, behind front wheel

what makes me laugh members are going back to the suppliers for advice...Its like an abuse victim returning to abuser for even more of the same. how can you trust someone who sold you these chinese bikes in the first place beggars belief.

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[Puddleduck]

But it's only a bluff because the bike has not been certified to the standard and will not be marked as the standard demands, so it's quite wrong for them to give this advice as suppliers.

I just suggested it as better than nothing.

I have a CoC saying it is legal in the UK. I would give that to any policeman who took an interest . Not that it is likely to happen as I have no intention of taking the bike to Spain.

 

[hilldweller]

how can you trust someone who sold you these chinese bikes in the first place beggars belief.

Unless they were asked to supply for use in Europe what have they done wrong ?

 

[Judge Mental]

They sell them at motorhome shows. The law will say nothing, but I know what I think. They play on impulse buying and nievity IMO

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