Guns....Yes, No or Leave Well Alone?? - Page 6

hayleylulu · 29-11-2009, 23:08

i had a air gun took dog shooting the dog run of when i fired it came back at me and hit me in the face i went down like a sack of spudes

JayDee · 29-11-2009, 23:16

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Originally Posted by laneside

This is the point that us legal shooters are trying to make

We are subject to licencing and we are inspected by the police every time we renew our certificate and they look carefully at your gun cabinet and household security.

If we leave our house for more than I think it is a two week period we have to log our guns with a licence holder with suitable security or log them into the local police station

IT IS THE ILLEGAL GUNS IN THE HANDS OF IDIOTS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM

IF we were all to take the same stand and ban things that THE INDIVIDUAL does not agree with where we be.

I do not agree with the inordinate time spent policing footgall matches--ban them

Careless drivers that cause accidents-- ban them

Town centre drinking-- ban it

Cars are extremely dangeous in the wrong hands --ban them

The list could go on and every reader could had several more until we have to spend all day in bed

Cheers Alan

Should - never did all the time I was with my second club. I asked a fellow member, who happened to be a copper, if he would check it and he said OK, but there was no way was it an Offical Inspection by the local constabulary. But then apparently this force licensed Mr. Ryan and also apparently, doubts were expressed by his club about his suitability to own the guns he was declaring. But that is hearsay and I really hope it isn't true.

I would hope that things are a bit more rigourous these days.

At least if the local firearms officer visits the homes of licensed gun owners to ensure that the guns are secure and the owner is well informed about current legislation we can all be sure that at least the law abiding section of the gun owning community are OK, and any other gun IS illegal.

Inform and educate the populace and draconian gun control becomes unnecessary.

John

buttons · 30-11-2009, 07:26

All that making guns more difficult to own will do is upset genuine users. I had access to all types of guns as a tot and never shot anyone. 99% of guns used in criminal activity are illegal guns so what will banning them do?
I spend a bit of time in Chicago each year, never seen a gun. Most of you on here do a bit of travelling, have you ever come across any misuse of guns in this country. Some people believe everything they read in newspapers, big mistake. The date is normally correct but get a more balanced view before quoting the rest.

SUFFOLK BOY · 06-12-2009, 17:43

Leave the law as it is i have been using shotguns since the age of 12 obviously under strict parental supervision then ! The regulations are pretty strict now and to make them even stricter will not stop the criminal element getting hold of them .
Remember Hungerford when the knee jerk reaction of the Government of the day in banning many classes of firearms and succeeded in shutting down many long established highly concientious Gun Clubs achieved absolutely nothing with regard to guns getting in the hands of the wrong people.

Regards
SB

jhbgaiem · Yesterday, 10:16

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When did banning anything ever do any good? we should use laws to punish offenders, not legislation to punish everyone. So we banned handguns- what good has that done? Zilch, we have more illegal weapons now than ever; tens of thousands were robbed of a sport that they enjoyed and thousands lost their livelihood with little or no compensation. And for what?

Well, Jim, Lets see about that.
What about child pornography? Should it be freely available?
What about smoking inside offices. If people don't want to have to breeathe other people's smoke, shall we make them?
What about drinking and driving?

I could give lots of examples but I won't bother. Just look at this page that compares for countries gun ownership and death by firearms. http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm

The UK makes a very poor showing - the champions are the USA!

ScotJimland · Yesterday, 11:04

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Originally Posted by jhbgaiem

Well, Jim, Lets see about that.
What about child pornography? Should it be freely available?
What about smoking inside offices. If people don't want to have to breeathe other people's smoke, shall we make them?
What about drinking and driving?

I could give lots of examples but I won't bother.

well, we know that child porn is freely available, ( Jon Venables had no problem ) and people still drink and drive despite the law, also many drugs are illegal but drug use is reaching epidemic proportions, so laws don't make the problem go away..

my point was that banning handguns only took legal guns away from law abiding citizens.. and did nothing to stop gun crime.. neither have the new laws on carrying knives cut knife crime.

The No Smoking rules .. . is a law to protect the Non Smoker and yes that has worked in offices etc .. but it hasn't cut dramatically the number of smokers, or kids starting. i

Imperial Tobacco sales defy crackdown on smoking

By definition, a criminal breaks the law, so new laws don't make him/her change their ways..

Rainbowchaser · Yesterday, 13:48

Interesting views on here.
I've not read the whole thread but for what it's worth……

I was secretary of a gun club until recently. I am a certified range officer.
I still shoot 3 times a week although now restricted to air pistols due to the knee-jerk reaction of the government to a few incidents.
Since the banning of legally held handguns in UK we now have a situation where illegally held firearms are now not in a secure environment under the control of responsible people but are in the hands of the criminal fraternity.
I could, should I be so inclined, ask around in my nearby town and could buy, rent or borrow a handgun for a hundred pounds or so with ammunition. This is what scares me.
Air weapons for serious target shooting in a club with restricted muzzle velocity must now be purchased face-to-face from a licensed arms trader yet I can buy a lethal crossbow with bolts , knives or tasers on the internet. Can someone explain this to me?

As someone has already said, it's not guns that kill people, it's people who kill people.
I currently coach children as young as ten years old for competition once a week at our range. We teach them the safe handling of guns and the responsibility that goes with them. In the years since we began, we have never had an unsafe incident.
We weed out the undesirable elements who wish to join the club by keeping a close eye on their behaviour and so police ourselves.

Guns will always be with us, along with axes, hammers, chainsaws etc…
Prohibition historically, has never succeeded.
Madness reigns in this nanny state.