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Old 27-09-2012, 12:50   #1 (permalink)
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Default Vat exemption and vehicle adaptions

Hi all,

As some of you may know, who have seen us with the Funsters at various shows, my Hubby is disabled and has difficulty walking more than a few yards. He uses a mobility scooter, but not a wheelchair as some of his injuries prevent him from wheeling himself along. Although his scooter breaks down into parts, it is becoming more and more difficult for us to lift up the various parts into the MH. As we have nowhere to carry it but on the bench seats, we are very aware it would be an extremely dangerous object should we be involved in a serious accident. Hubby is also really struggling to get in and out of the MH now, as it is quite a step up for him.

We have therefore started looking for a new MH with a garage we can lift things in and out of more easily, but also not too high a vehicle to step up into. As he tires quickly, we are also looking for a fixed rear end bedroom, preferably with single beds, so he can sleep during the day without being disturbed. As I do all the driving it needs to be an automatic as well. Not much to ask for as a spec...

At Lincoln last week whilst looking at new motorhomes,, we were told that all we needed was a letter from the Dr to prove hubby's disability in order to be VAT exempt. Having read other posts on this forum, it obviously isn't that easy. The vehicle needs to be adapted for disabled use. This is completely new territory for us and we don't know what adaptions are available to actually help hubby and to enable us to potentially qualify for the VAT exemption, if in fact it is even possible.

Any guidance on this would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 27-09-2012, 14:06   #2 (permalink)
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If hubby is as disabled as you say, you should be eligibe for VAT exemption but it is a minefield. A doctors letter is not sufficient!!

There is an adaption whereby you can have a lift to get into the MH but the whole side of the van and door needs to be modified.

Maybe a two level portable step would help him to get into the van?

I would suggest you give Gill a call on 01-580-881588 and have a chat to her as she has had experience of supplying vans VAT free and does it properly or have a chat to Andy.

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Old 27-09-2012, 15:38   #3 (permalink)
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Right deep breath and here we go...

you need to read guidance book 701/59 from HMRC which is specific to vehicles supplied to disabled persons at the reduced rate of 0% VAT

in short to qualify
1 the vehicle must be new
2 the vehicle must be adapted before delivery, but see note below
3 the disabled person must be unable to walk and require a wheelchair or stretcher
4 the person must be exempt from RFL
5 documentary evidence of disability is required
6 the correct exemption paperwork must be completed before delivery and retained for later inspection

an adaption can range from something simple to allow for the disabled person to drive, and somewhere to carry the wheelchair through to major remodelling, but this is not essential. I have a spinal injury and to allow me to drive, I need a steering wheel ball fitted. cost 50

please pm me for anything personal related to this, as it is not a topic I am comfortable discussing on the forum. too many think we are getting free cars and something for nothing just by being disabled


http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsP...yType=document

or download it

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsP...HMCE_CL_000128

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Old 27-09-2012, 15:51   #4 (permalink)
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i do know that there are people that will do the necessary modifications to your existing van.

have a word with these people.

http://www.coachbuiltgb.co.uk/Home.a...ledAdaptations
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Old 27-09-2012, 16:36   #5 (permalink)
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Right deep breath and here we go...

you need to read guidance book 701/59 from HMRC which is specific to vehicles supplied to disabled persons at the reduced rate of 0% VAT

in short to qualify
1 the vehicle must be new
2 the vehicle must be adapted before delivery, but see note below
3 the disabled person must be unable to walk and require a wheelchair or stretcher
4 the person must be exempt from RFL
5 documentary evidence of disability is required
6 the correct exemption paperwork must be completed before delivery and retained for later inspection

an adaption can range from something simple to allow for the disabled person to drive, and somewhere to carry the wheelchair through to major remodelling, but this is not essential. I have a spinal injury and to allow me to drive, I need a steering wheel ball fitted. cost 50

please pm me for anything personal related to this, as it is not a topic I am comfortable discussing on the forum. too many think we are getting free cars and something for nothing just by being disabled


http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsP...yType=document

or download it

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsP...HMCE_CL_000128
You are wrong I am sorry to say....

The vehicle can be second hand to allow the vat to be removed by the dealer using the vat margin.

It is a mine field.. but I have done it.
You have to complete the correct forms.. but to break it down the user has to be a wheelchair or stretcher user (do not ask me why a stretcher).

There is a lot of case law now and HM Customs and Revenue have agreed that an adaption as small as a wheel spinner is enough to apply the removal of the VAT element.

Also VAT can be removed off repairs from a VAT exempted vehicle .. this covers a lot of the day to day running but not goodies on a motor home.

You should have an DLA 404 exemption and in receipt of the higher level of DLA.. this is one of the magic keys.

I suggest you p.m. me or call me and I can run through the issues. Been there got the T shirt a few times.

But it is a wheelchair that the form states (or stretcher) ... Some of the suppliers like Star Spangled Spanner (for the RV's) is very use to providing the parts less vat on production of the correct forms... same with the main Renault dealer that keeps my Rv in top condition.. VAT removed on production of the correct forms which I have to supply not him.

As an a side I am selling my RV to get a toy hauler so I can have better access for my wheelchair... so it is not easy.. as I know.

Remember it is also on Second hand vehicles. Does not apply to trailers at all.

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Slobadobyyyyyyyyyy ....

I've seen you mention a 'toy hauler' a few times ... what is it!
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Slobadobyyyyyyyyyy ....

I've seen you mention a 'toy hauler' a few times ... what is it!
OK for those that do not know... it is a bit like my front end of my Ford B class RV.. but at the back it has a garage like a truck with either a big ramp or in my case it is a tail lift that allows me to drive my power wheelchair on or normal wheelchair ..scooters or even an ATV...like a quad bike... I can then lift the tail lift up to the back and open a roller shutter or door and get entry into the RV garage area which is over 6' head room.. has some cupboards each side or pull down beds.. even has a hatch in the roof with a pull down ladder so you can get up on the observation deck area.

But it is normally used by racing teams.. popular with motor bike racers and go carts.. or those that have quad bikes....

Ideal for those that are disabled as it allow you to get up in tot he back and in to the main area (living) without having to climb stairs. All sorts of layouts and size... from about 29' up to 40' long... under 7.5 tons to whatever.

A secondhand one from about 35k upwards, made by lots of companies in the USA.

Hope that helps.

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Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee dont encourage him
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