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Old 04-10-2008, 03:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Having just sold the RV i thought id go and have a look at what the European dealers had on offer.

Ive just spent a facinating 2 hours wandering round Brownpiles in Preston and been totally ignored by the entire sales team (no great loss as I only wanted to be nosey anyway. I obviously didnt fit into the grey haired typical customer profile ).

Now before I start i want to make it clear that im not a very big fan of European motorhomes. I wont go into a huge rant about it, i simply dont think that a lot of them are fit for purpose and been built to a weight has to many strings and compromises attached for my liking.

THIS THREAD IS NOT A RV VERSUS EURO MOTORHOME SLAGGING MATCH

Anyway after looking round about 60-70 vehicles and reading the prices with tears in my eyes i sat back in my car and wondered how on Earth do the dealers justify the prices??

Lets start with a C class. Simple van chassis with a caravan bolted on top and the van cab then joined to the caravan at the pointy end. I know this a very simplistic way of looking at it but in essence that is what a C class is.

Cost of Fiat Chassis Cab £ 12000.00 ish
Cost of top of the range caravan of similar size to C class £ 11000.00ish

Total is £23kish. The cheapest i saw today was £34K I know every business has to make a profit and that there is a bit of work in grafting the body onto the cab and fitting water/waste tanks etc, but motorhome manufactures dont need to supply the running gear and brakes/heavy chassis that caravan manufacturers do but £11K difference and they wont even give you a bloody spare wheel

The same goes for the A class except the price differential is double .

I then looked at a van conversion £33K for a standard van with a caravan interior, are they serious

I understand you can buy a lot of models available in the UK considerably cheaper on the continent (even right hand drive) which only leads me to the point of this thread.

I know we all live in "RIP OFF BRITAIN" but please can someone tell me and the rest of the folks on here how motorhome manufacturers get away with charging the ludicrous prices for their vehicles . And more to the point why do we the eversuffering British public let them??

Unfortunately we dont plan on replacing the RV anytime soon (but i do miss it and it only went yesterday ) due to a lack of time to use it, but if and when we decide the time is right to replace it we wont be heading for our local dealers...........we will be heading for the airport and a Boeing 747 back to the USA where even after paying a huge amount of shipping and tax to the Treasury we will end up with a vehicle that is twice anything i saw today for a lot less and where we wont be ignored when we walk into the dealers to have a look around.

Come on people if you are in the market for a new motorhome ask the dealers to justify the costs to you. Im sure it will have a lot of salespeople squirming
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Cummon Dazzer,

There is NO comparison between a MH built on a Fiat chassis/cab and an AMERICAN (monster in the nicest way possible)

Its chalk and cheese!

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Cummon Dazzer,

There is NO comparison between a MH built on a Fiat chassis/cab and an AMERICAN (monster in the nicest way possible)

Its chalk and cheese!

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Hi Peter

Im not comparing the 2 products only the cost.........as you say chalk and cheese

Im simply asking how the manufacturers can justfy the cost of European motorhomes which are a lot simpler, lighter and fitted with less "kit".

Why can USA manufacturers build them considerably cheaper, bigger and to a higher spec on a heavier duty engine/transmission and chassis than their European counterparts?

Its a simple, fair question dont you think??
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i think its because most euro buyers are brainwashed into accepting the price (myself included) and are prepared to pay without question 'cos "thats what they cost"

same with any 'special' product.

how can rolls royce justify £250,000 for, what is at the end of the day, a car......because the folks that can afford them dont question the price but its the equivelant to a dozen family cars
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I think it is a fair and decent question.

Don't really have the answer other than its the old adage of supply and demand.

You build a MH, you then sell a dream for as much as you can possibly get away with. result is the british punter does his normal and pays well over the top compared to his european cousins.

HOWEVER- there is a catch, the ammount they charge is dictated too by the market. The market is shrinking massively due to the current fat cat crisis. With a shrinking market comes a battle to sell hence lower prices.

Of course thats only good if you dont have a px.

The only other thing I would say, is having seen the quality of some of the Yank vans against the Euros, Im amazed at the difference. Im sure Yanks have there probs too but surely not to the extnt you read about on euro vans.
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I have a european MH and although nice I wouldn't want an American one, however there's no doubt the yanks charge a lot less, and usually have as standard a lot of 'options' which will cost another fortune on a European one
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Hi guys

Its not really a question about American versus European, Its about value for money.

Its all a personnel choice.

My opinion is that its a no brainer. The new European rv's/motorhomes look the business, however so to do the US ones.

The US RV'S have a better quality of build, are far more reliable and at the moment are far less expensive than the European builds. (In my opinion)

This honestly isn't a wind up to provoke some reaction. As I say its a personnel choice and thats what traveling is all about.

Happy Days and Cheers

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Cummon Dazzer,

There is NO comparison between a MH built on a Fiat chassis/cab and an AMERICAN (monster in the nicest way possible)

Its chalk and cheese!

Peter
I have a class c American rv. Its not a monster its a thing of beauty.
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hi dazzler i agree £ for£ you cant beat the yank mine has been very problematic when we did use it it was only slightly more expensive than our European to run its on lpg we've had 5 European vans inc c class and a class vans the million dollar question would i have another yank or European the answer is in the question $ yank wins hands down next time it will be second hand though let someone else sort any problems out before i get it
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hi dazzler i agree £ for£ you cant beat the yank mine has been very problematic when we did use it it was only slightly more expensive than our European to run its on lpg we've had 5 European vans inc c class and a class vans the million dollar question would i have another yank or European the answer is in the question $ yank wins hands down next time it will be second hand though let someone else sort any problems out before i get it
Spot on. Surf the web, the bargains are there

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