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hi dazzler i agree £ for£ you cant beat the yank mine has been very problematic when we did use it it was only slightly more expensive than our European to run its on lpg we've had 5 European vans inc c class and a class vans the million dollar question would i have another yank or European the answer is in the question $ yank wins hands down next time it will be second hand though let someone else sort any problems out before i get it

madbluemad

Spot on. Surf the web, the bargains are there

Cheers

Jim

dazzer

Ive been having a look round the manufactures websites and looking at costs etc.

I cant believe the prices of "extras" they offer on the Eurovan all of which are fitted as standard on RVs. Ive put a list below with prices. If you bought a "fully loaded" Eurovan with all the toys you would be paying an extra £ 13500.00 on top of the purchase price . All of the kit listed below is fitted as standard to most of their USA counterparts.

Engine Upgrade (more power.....why dont they just fit an engine man enough for the job in the first place ???) £ 1400.00
Roof mounted Air Con £ 1600.00
Automatic Transmission £ 1200.00
Levelling Jacks £ 2000.00
Generator £ 1200.00
Tow Package £ 500.00
Slide Out Room £ 5000.00 (only available from 1 German manufacturer)
TV/ DVD/ Surround £ 1000.00
Flushing Toilet £ 600.00
Electric Step £ 300.00
Microwave Oven £ 200.00

That £13k now if you buy your RV and spend £3000 on an LPG conversion you are still £10k better off and driving a bigger, better built machine. I think buyers of new vehicles should be asking the manufacturers/dealers some very hard questions about costs.

The 1 thing i hear all the time is that the RVs are to big for UK use but this is simply not true. Winnebago do a superb 23 foot long RV built on a Mercedes Sprinter chassis and it is a stunningly beautiful vehicle.

I know its all about supply and demand but the deeper you dig and compare costs the more apparant it is that the manufacturers of Eurovans are seriously kicking the arse of their customers at every level.

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terry

only my opinion,yanks pay half price for almost everything compaired to us poor europeans ie what we buy in £ they pay= in $ except fuel that they pay about a quarter This would make a 30k euro van in the states about say 15k (if they wanted to sell any)Since the base vehicle is about 15k ish and the cost of stuff to put in it is around 6k to 9k then wages to convert bringing it to around 24k plus wages say 4k total 28k good value or rip off ?On the plus side euro vans are made for our tiny rds and can more or less park up almost anywhere-ish compared to the large yanks.(not to say no big E/Vans) Yanks are great for long term occupation,but for 2 / 3 week stays do you need all that room ?inconveince ? luxuary ?
Economy of scale we build say 20,000 vans yanks are probably 200,000
Happy in my v/comfy smallish (20ft) van for 2
terry
WHAT PRICE IS 23 foot long RV built on a Mercedes Sprinter chassis ???

Brisey

WHAT PRICE IS 23 foot long RV built on a Mercedes Sprinter chassis ???

$86k - $88k


Have a look here

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terry

Very nice too 88,000$ = about 47,000£ Some v nice euro vans at that price,then put on import duty plus VAT and we are up to around 65 k plus the tv will not work and if I read right the genny needs a motor? probably now nearer 70k on top of all that you cannot make a slice of toast
terry
SEE EVEN THE YANKS are ripping us off

paulharrison

Hi Dazzer its good to see you have sold your coachman mine is getting better and better now theres a few miles on the clock, the only problem I have is when traveling with friends keep losing them on the hills just came up france and we seemed to use less fuel than a autotrail cheiftan travelling with me
paul

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Dazzer

I think you will find 'price comparison' of europe build vs. USA build has a lot to do with the strength of the currency. GB£ to US$ is very good....at the moment $1.77 to the £, whereas the £ is only 1.28 euro.

No idea what manual labour average rates are in the US but i would imagine extremely low and very poor in comparison to say Germany.

UK has long been known for its excessive taxation, high prices, coupled with poor average labour rates. Because of this we have lost huge chunks of both manual and skilled labour. Engineering and motor vehicle industries being just a couple of classic examples.

Pricing in the US is reflected by the low labour cost, where in the UK we have low labour costs with excessive profit margins.