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Old 21-06-2013, 12:13   #1 (permalink)
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Stuart Hall gets 15 months for molesting 13 underage kids.

Jeremy Forrest gets 5 1/2 years for his involvement with a willing 15 year old, the words abduction and paedophile certainly shouldn`t be used in this case.

How do the courts justify this sentance, the law really is an ASS
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Old 21-06-2013, 12:19   #2 (permalink)
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There is no way that I condone what he did. His actions were contemptible, but had the girl been a few months older, there would have been no offence.
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Old 21-06-2013, 12:29   #3 (permalink)
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Bizarre,

One runs off with willing participant where in many counties her age would not be illegal and in the country they ran too was seen as a love story.

One forces his dirty hands over unsuspecting young pre pubescent girls.


I'm sorry, I don't get it, the law is truly an ass.

However, as said, he was a teacher in a position if trust, he should of kept himself under control.
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They did originally get it on when she was only 14 though.

Still a bit surprised at the sentence.
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Abuse of a position of trust is a serious offence in itself in my opinion and warranted the sentence. We have to deal with this harshly to send a message to other teachers and people in positions of trust with children that it just isn't acceptable. This was as much a message to others as it was punishment for him.


On the other hand the Sentence Hall got was way too low...
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As per my post yesterday on the same subject, the law has to draw the line somewhere. 15 years and 364 days it is an offence. 16 years and 1 day it is not.

The fact is she was a pupil and he was a teacher and should have known better whatever the pupils age. Secondly he knowingly had sex with a minor and knowingly took her to France to escape when he realised that the game was up. The fact that she led him on is only a mitigating point. The sentence was about what I would have thought** - it was strange that the underage thing was not a part of the original prosecution but that was explained this morning as it was all tied up with the terms of the European arrest warrant (they had insufficient evidence at the time it was issued)

Stuart Hall - yes an unduly lenient sentence but it is being looked at and the judge had to adhere to sentencing guidelines at the time of the offence as I read it.


** That is 2 1/2 years less time already served on remand
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Old 21-06-2013, 13:37   #7 (permalink)
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Stuart Hall - yes an unduly lenient sentence but it is being looked at and the judge had to adhere to sentencing guidelines at the time of the offence as I read it.


** That is 2 1/2 years less time already served on remand
At least sentencing has moved with the times.

If Stuart Hall had been found guilty at the time he perpetrated the crime, 2.5 years was all he would have got!

Can you imagine how long someone would spend in jail if they molested 13 underage girls today?
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Abuse of a position of trust is a serious offence in itself in my opinion and warranted the sentence. We have to deal with this harshly to send a message to other teachers and people in positions of trust with children that it just isn't acceptable. This was as much a message to others as it was punishment for him.


On the other hand the Sentence Hall got was way too low...
Although i agree with you isn't it about time some strong messages were sent re some other crimes..... Robbery burglary etc....
Thats what gets my back up
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