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01-07-2008, 12:48 PM
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Funster No: 548
Join Date: Oct 2007
MH Type: A class
MH Model: Hymer S-700
Location: Ely - England
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Why FIAT?
Why do people invest their hard earned cash in Fiat based motorhomes? People must do research before they buy a motorhome, don't they?
Every magazine you open pretty well, every forum you read, is packed with letters and comments about faults and failures of Fiat based motor homes. No just old ones mind, new ones too! Numerous transmission failures, gearboxes, judders and breakdowns. Even built in design faults like the ingress of water into the engine compartment, etc etc.
And thats without all the complaints about the indifference of Fiat dealers. A friends 2004 Hymer Exsis (Fiat based of course) has been in the dealers for more than 2 months now, why? Get this; they don't know!! Still trying to find why it won't run! They are trying parts from other vehicles they service in the hope of finding the fault!
There's plenty of options; Mercedes-Benz, Ford, Renault and more..
So can someone tell me, why do people buy FIAT?
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01-07-2008, 03:52 PM
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Hi,
It is beyond me why anyone would spend their money on a Fiat based product, now that they have well and truly been exposed for what they are. (Both the product and the company).
Equally disheartening to me is the fact that so many motorhomes continue to be based on their chassis. Just what are the motorhome companies thinking about.
It can only be that they make maximum profit on the initial sale due to cheap pricing by Fiat, and to hell with the consiquencies for the users.
I would like to hear from a truly creditable and switched on company such as Swift as to why they keep using this rubish. I know from other forums that they have to, and have been, bending over backwards to solve the problems caused by Fiat.
Wilbury
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01-07-2008, 04:12 PM
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Funster No: 1075
Join Date: Dec 2007
MH Type: Self Build
MH Model: Iveco
Location: South yorks
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The simple truth of the matter is they are cheap,purpose made(for m/h)in design stage,and in the case of P/V conversion WIDE.They have faults but most would say the pro's outweigh the con's.Would you pay a £5-6 k permium for merc ?I am on my 3rd iveco (fiat- badged ford) and had no probs at all.Not sticking up for the P,C,F's all veicles have faults it just some are better than others.
terry
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01-07-2008, 06:42 PM
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Funster No: 266
Join Date: Sep 2007
MH Type: C Class
MH Model: Roller Team Granduca
Location: Ammanford
Years Motorhoming: 5 yrs
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[Coming up to 30,000 miles now on my 2.8td Fiat,touch wood been very reliable no problems,off to France soon probabally do around 2-3000 miles.
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01-07-2008, 07:29 PM
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Funster No: 172
Join Date: Aug 2007
MH Type: coachbuilt
MH Model: swift kon-tiki
Location: scarborough, nth yorks
Years Motorhoming: 5 years
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from what i can glean from the service reciepts my 2.8 ducato has only had the 5th gear selector/synchro hub replaced which seems to be a common fault on all the sevile vans, now this has been done (in 2005)i dont expect any more problems in the transmision dept.
in my mind this is a driver induced fault due to changing gear to fast ,like you would in a car. commercial gearbox's are much more robust but you do have to change gear a lot slower and 'feel' it drop in, not just force it in. my toyota pickup struggles with second if you dont take your time.
all other reciepts are for run of the mill service stuff and MOTs.
the only other failure was the washer pump but that was due to cheap screen wash fluid and once the filter was cleaned it worked as it should.
the van is now 7 years old with 20 odd thou on the clock and runs like a good 'un. 
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01-07-2008, 08:59 PM
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I have owned 3 Fiat based motorhomes, one of which we put 60,000 miles on. Go to any campsite and you will see plenty of 10 year old Fiats. They just seem to go on an on. Yes i am sure there are better base vehicles, but the cheaper Fiat makes it attractive to the motorhome manufacturers. And recent problems excepted, the Fiat, at the price, does an excellent job.
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02-07-2008, 06:36 AM
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FIAT
Fix It Again Today 
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02-07-2008, 07:03 AM
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Funster No: 266
Join Date: Sep 2007
MH Type: C Class
MH Model: Roller Team Granduca
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Quote:
Originally Posted by derek h
FIAT
Fix It Again Today 
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Not mine,what have you got
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02-07-2008, 07:15 AM
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Funster No: 43
Join Date: Jul 2007
MH Type: A Class
MH Model: Euromobil
Location: Europe
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Hi
I think the figures define which ones you will see in for repair. I have no idea of the ratio but it must be something like for every 1 non fiat there will be 10 fiat based ones so there is more chance it will be a fiat in for repair.
stew
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