paulmj

Of course as soon as you put used cooking oil (or anything else) in your car/motorhome/etc you are legally required to pay Road Fuel Duty on it and it stops being so cheap. Lots of people (someone will know how many and where) have been busted for this because, you guessed it, the Police could tell they were running used cooking oil by the smell. A quick pull, a "can you prove you are paying duty on that fuel, sir?" and they landed straight in court.

I do like the idea of one of the small conversion plants you can buy though. Apparently the trick is to use new cooking oil which doesn't smell. It is still miles cheaper than derv!

Tiderus

I hope this webb site will be of help with the legal prices of Bio fuel as he's been going for years.

Bio-power fuel prices August 2006

olley

Hi due to a change in the VAT law you are allowed to make bio-diesel without paying VAT, you are limited to 2,500 litres per year. Government scraps duty on biofuel production » Environment » 24dash.com

Olley

Wildman

You are out of date, since last November the chancellor changed the law regarding veg oil. you can now legally use up to 2500 litres a year without paying fuel tax, veg oil down here is currently £1.23 litre and new oil straight from the supermarket does smell the same. I know I use it.

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paulmj

Ah, at last a carrot rather than a stick from the Man.

G4GMO

Legally I understand you can use up to 2500 litres a year without any tax liabilities. Unfortunately if you check out the price of cooking oil in the supermarkets there isn't a big saving for the likes of us who only do a few thou a year. Have a look on ebay and see what people are selling used chip shop oil for and it will astound you. Personally I'm resigned to not travelling much. I don't see how anyone can beat the system. Just get on with life as best we can and not get too wound up. GRRRRRRRR

Chilling honest.

Gonewiththewind

This is the place i go Welcome to Biodiesel Filling Stations
Have done for several years.
Ready filtered at refined 90p a litre.
From the pump to the tank

Roadrunner_644

Evening all

After attending a 2 day outdoor event and mixing with traders, I was astounded after a number of them told me they ran an old van, 92-99 vintage just for the outdoor events and run the things on veg oil.

I even went in to see the customs & excise people who were showing there, and asked them the score, they pointed me to the relevant part of their web site, and confirmed the story I had been given

I got some information and did some looking up, and I can't see any drawbacks other than a few minor inconveniences. The price of veg oil is rising, but could it go above diesel prices? perhaps, but at the moment the difference is there.

I'm now looking into using new straight veg oil, initially as a 50/50 mix with pump derv, and then to install a second tank, and run 100% veg oil if no problems.

With diesel at nearly 1.30 around here and veg oil at around 85p from the wholesalers, it's a big saving.

With the customs & excise annual 2500 litre limit before being liable for duty, it means roughly 12500 miles with a saving of 45p a litre.

I wouldn't do those miles in a year, but I probably will over 3 years, and this would more than cover the cost of the full extra tank and gubbins installation.

What drawbacks? You have to keep simple records of what veg oil you use, and you have to fill your tank from a 20 litre drum instead of from the forecourt pump.

This is probably not for those who run newer vans with TDI engines, and those under warranties, but great for those with older vans like mine (95 Fiat 2.5TD), just over 60k miles, so the engine has loads of life left in it.

Here are some links, some probably posted before, of some useful information.

vegetableoildiesel.co.uk - Powered by XMB

Products

ATG - Diesel, Biodiesel and Vegetable Oil Technology (SVO/PPO)

And veg oil prices from Bookers - Makro tend to advertise the price as "market price"


Booker Wholesale | Search

Cheers

Dave

pappajohn

hi Dave,

this is a very old post but the info you posted is very usefull especialy as i have a bookers card.
20ltr for £17.99 sounds good to me.

john.

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Roadrunner_644

Hello John

It looks like a no brainer, but I still feel a little bit sceptical.

I filled up to the brim on the way home from the show on sunday evening, 66.13 litres cost me 84.69 (1.299 per litre).

I'll run the van till she's half full and then go 50/50 with veg oil, and report back.

Good on you for the chip fat post.

Cheers

Dave