Wiring Reversing Camera

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  1. Steely Daniel

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    Hi
    I plan to install a new double din head unit in my motorhome which will be the display for a wired reversing camera. Can any members give advice regarding routing the wiring? Basically, should I go under the floor of the van and come up in the engine bay or try and find a way from front to back of the van internally. The van is a 2010 Swift Sundance which has a plastic moulding on the top of the rear panel to accommodate a camera but accessibility does not look good so this is probably not an easy option.
     
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    We installed a reversing camera on our swift kon tiki and found the easiest way to wire was to run cable along chasis untill under drivers seat where there was a hole through to interior where leisure battery cables enter. Hope this helps
     
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    I decided to run mine through the inside, to put it bluntly it was a pig of a job, But I like to do a job once properly and not to have to revisited if possible,
    Lots of furniture/ fittings to move and then refit, with the end result a video that is clear and doesn't break up like the wireless one fitted to the van originally,
    About a days work all in, if I had been a gynaecologist perhaps I could have done it quicker ;)
     
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    I think you'll find the wiring is already there. To check, open the top glove box, there are 4 star bolts inside it which hold it in place. Undo these and remove the box, look underneath into the dashboard, there should be a thing that has 2 sockets that look almost like network cable, the cable is an off white colour. That is the video feed from the camera.
    If you have that, you simply need to plug the head unit video in to this.
    I am not near the van so I can't take photos at the mo, but if you need more help, I can get this for you tomorrow.
     
  5. Steely Daniel

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    Thank you for an extremely helpful reply. I have only taken out the existing head unit so far and I will be investigating further over the weekend and will keep my fingers crossed that I may find some cables lurking under the dashboard. My van does not actually have a top dashboard as it has a passenger airbag. Maybe I will try to access from the lower glovebox.
    Can I ask if the van that you are describing was a Swift Sundance? If it was, was it the model with the grey plastic moulding at the top of the rear grp panel? This will be my next move to try and remove the panel and discover if there is a wire in place behind the panel.
    Thanks again
     
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    You are describing exactly, the job that I imagine it to be!
     
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    Thanks for the info. This will be the easiest route if I do not find any pre installed wiring and if I put the camera at number plate level.
     
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    Yes it is, we own a 2011 Swift Sundance 630L, I intend to get you some piccies later today, we're off out in her this weekend. Are you sure there isn't a top glove box? We also have a passenger air bag, on top of the dash there should be a panel that lifts up, revealing another glove box.
    Yes we do have the camera moulding at the top at the rear. To the best of my knowledge, having hired many Swifts, the camera is already there in the moulding, they were fitted as standard. The bit that will be missing is the screen at the front.
     
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    Hi
    Yes you are right there is a top glove box. There are six screws. Two hidden under where the lid pivots. Should have time at the weekend to work out how to get those out. Possibly looks like you pull out a pivot pin on the left hand side. Unfortunately I do not have the camera in the silver housing at the rear of the van. I think my model year was when they just started putting the newer rear end on the Sundances so I missed out on the camera. Anyway still hoping that they may have had the sense to future proof by pre installing the cable. Keeping fingers crossed.
     
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    Quick update. I didn't realise that the lid stays on the van. So glovebox was removed and the 6 pin din plug you described is there. There apparently is a module that it plugs into if the standard Swift camera/monitor is fitted. I will be installing a double din head unit which will be the monitor so I will need to adapt the six pin plug so that it has a video output. Does the Swift/Sargent module provide a standard video output? The other problem will be the other end of the cable if it is present behind the silver cover at the rear of the van. I imagine most aftermarket cameras have a cable built in and not plugged into the unit, so it will be a matter of identifying what each wire does.
     
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    Hi,

    Personally with all these typical installations starting again with all your own complete new equipment and wiring is the best solution.

    We would run our own new complete cabling in protective split conduit from the rear to the front underneath the motorhome following existing looms between the chassis members coming into the drivers footwell (once removed). Then up from there into the drivers side dashboard area (once removed) giving you good access then behind the radio recess.
    As you have the drivers side dashboard area already down, remember you are going to need a reverse signal input for your head-unit which you can find behind the drivers fuse board?. This can be identified of course with your probe?

    You will also want to install a permanent inline 12v switch to independently power your head unit so it can be left on longer than 30 minute timed intervals..

    With the dashboard area down this also gives good access to run cables for Microphones/dab antenna/nav aerial all depending on what spec your head unit comes with?

    When trying to identify and adapt or hack into what Swift may have or not installed can be a real pain if you went to all the time to install a camera system at the back and wired incorrectly to then blow your camera up when plugging in..

    Because we all know that Swift will never of course give the information out!!

    The other option with camera and stereo installations is let someone that works with motorhomes every day of the week to install such items to then receive the added bonus of a warranty ;)(y)

    Have fun :)

    ..
     
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    What he said! :D
     
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    Hi
    Thanks for the input. I agree that paying someone to do it all would be the easy sensible option. However I enjoy the feeling of achievement of doing things myself and learning something along the way. What is also maintaining my enthusiasm is that I have found a link to the Sargent website technical page which gives you the wiring diagrams for Swift motorhomes. With this info, using the existing wiring is extremely viable.
    I plan to contact Sargent to establish what outputs their module provides and if this would be relevant to a standard head unit with a rear camera input.
     
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    Heard back from Sargent. They have confirmed that the wiring is pre installed in the Sundance and they have the kit including camera and module that they fit available for around £107. Result!
    Thanks to all for the helpful advice.
     
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    I have purchased my camera kit from Sargent Electrics for our Swift Sundance 590RS ,can you tell me where you fit the camera on the dashboard and how , anybody
     
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    Can anybody who has fitted a reversing camera on a swift 2010 Sundance tell me where and if they screwed it down please
     
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    I have a reversing camera kit which I bought off eBay. I was thinking of running the cabling underneath along the chassis but not sure where to mount the rear camera. Someone mentioned they were thinking of fitting their camera just above the rear number plate. I was wandering if this would be a good place or not as I would imagine a lot of spray and road muck would get thrown up in the wet. Where d you guys have yours mounted?
     
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    We've mounted ours on the front on the clip board panel , seemed the obvious place really haven't Finished installing it at the moment though
     
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    You need to mount it as high up as possible, if you install it at number plate level it will get dirty and no help at all very quickly.
     
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    Us too, but I think he meant the camera, rather than the monitor.
     
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