winter tires

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  1. robinmclaren

    robinmclaren Read Only Funster

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    3 years we have put up with our rear wheel drive toyota works van being undrivable at the first sign of snow or ice, 3 weeks ago had a set of winter tires fitted £330 , best investment i have ever made and no wonder it is illegal in other places to not have them fitted, snow , ice no problem not stuck once , havent even had to clear our drive to get van up slope , love them it even stops insted of abs on as we slide down road , the garage we purchased them from also remove these and store foc for next winter , bargain of the year

    happy xmas all:Wink:
     
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    Its what they do in Europe!
    We were lucky enough to have a set supplied with our first campervan, a German import VW! Most of their living was earned on festival fields though!
    Need to save for some for the Transit now!
     
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    Damn good idea.. I'd happily do this, was this a private or national dealer ?
     
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    A friend of mine fits winter tyres to his VW Golf when the snow starts and he has only been unable to get to work in Newcastle, once this winter.
    He lives in Rothbury & they have had mega dumps of snow.
    He reckons that most of the time its not the snow that is the big problem, but the idiotsd out there who don't know how to drive in the stuff :BigGrin:
     
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    Not really surprising when we have had so many winters without snow.

    After this year we could have the dozen or so without snow.....OR.....we could have the next dozen snowed in...who knows?

    How can we become skilled without any practice and how did all of the very skilled snow drivers become so?

    I got married in 1961 and we had bad snow winter 62/63 (Boxing day to Easter) and three or four other bad winters. Not many in 49 years.

    Two thing I have noticed

    1. Most problems seem to stem from those who use the "foot flat to the floor" technique so loved by the young brigade.
    2. Tailgating is as popular as ever.
     
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    i agree but then theres the idiots that think that a nice big 4x4 will get you anywhere.
    most cases yes a 4x4 will get you up that big snowy hill then you forgot 4 wheel drive means just that 4 wheels to drive. you aint stopping any better than the 2 wheel drive micra that couldn't get up the hill you have the same 4 brakes but 3 times the weight. :Doh:
     
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    national tires with discount , just took rav 4 out today and ended up using the diff locks on most of the lose stuff , would honestly say van better
     
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    Well can't speak for anyone else, but I had quite a few driving lessons on hard packed snow and ice, doing hill starts in 2nd gear etc, cos I just happened to be learning when it was that weather and I also happened to have a Canadian driving instructor who wasn't at all phased by such things.

    So yes, I can drive in it and in any case I am very light-footed anyway. Then hubby Mk 1 bought a diesel and I had to learn to rev!! LOL
     
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    The reason that are not compulsory here is that until a few years ago we never had any significant amounts of snow over most of the UK and so snow tyres were unnecessary.

    Now we cannot be sure.

    In 63/64 we had deep snow in the SE from Boxing Day until Easter but it has never been repeated.

    It's difficult to be fully prepared for the weather when it is so variable.

    As we live in a region with very variable weather we made not need snow tyres again for many years.

    In many countries all of the municipal vehicles are bought modified to have a snow plough attached. Just think of the huge extra cost involved if we did this year.

    Are you prepared to pay the extra rates?
     
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    Next year I am ordering a spare set of wheels and winter tyres for my daughter's car as she has been stuck so many times over the last two years and we have had to run her around a lot using my wife's 4 x 4.

    The only real cost will be the four extra wheels as, long term, the winter tyres won't really cost any more because when she's using those she won't be using her normal tyres, so they'll last twice as long.

    It's a difficult decision regarding the 4 x 4 as it just goes anywhere without any problem whatsoever and has never been stuck, and we live up a very steep hill that normal cars can never climb, unless they have winter tyres.

    What is important is that winter tyres are still useful even if it doesn't snow. They perform far better in cold conditions and you have better grip and stop more quickly on icy roads, so even if it doesn't snow next year my daughter's car will still have winter tyres on it from November 1st until mid-March.

    My own car is useless on snow (rear wheel drive and big fat tyres) so it stays in the garage and we use my wife's 4 x 4.

    Her car is now five years old and we'll probably replace it soon, which is one reason I'm not buying an extra set of wheels and winter tyres for that but, when we do replace it, it will be with a similar 4 x 4 and I will then buy a spare set of wheels and winter tyres for it. That must be the ultimate winter combination - four-wheel drive and winter tyres!
     
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    £330 is that for two or four tyres out of interest, cos I got a Toyota and suffer the same problem
     
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    For four tyres presumably. Putting winter tyres on just two wheels is not recommended and would be dangerous.

    I'm not sure what size of wheels you have but this firm does complete sets of alloy wheels and winter tyres for £600-700 for reasonably-sized wheels.

    http://www.tyremen.co.uk/winter-wheel-tyre-packages.html

    They've not much stock left at present but I shall be talking to them in summer for a set in time for November.
     
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    remember if buying a small 4x4 (SUV) not all of them can lock into 4 wheel drive, my x trail can , my brothers honda crv cannt, his is a better car but mines far better in (deep) snow.....

    it all depends what your after
     
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    By 'lock into four wheel drive' I presume that you mean locking the differential rather than simply being able to switch from two to four wheel drive? As it happens my wife's car does have a diff lock but we've never actually needed it, even in the deepest snow.

    Whilst the Nissan X-Trail can be switched into centre-diff lock, it can't be put into permanent 'normal' four-wheel drive. It has an 'Auto select' function, which primarily uses two-wheel drive and it only switches into four-wheel drive when it needs it.

    It is not recommended to drive on the 'Lock' setting for a long distance and this facility is only for when you're in deep trouble.
     
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    Winter tyres not only provide better traction they also provide better braking and handling.

    Quote from Autocar

    http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/stillatthewheel/archive/2010/12/01/just-how-good-are-winter-tyres.aspx
    Note..
    Winter tyres are NOT M&S ( mud and snow ) tyres which are designed for deep snow and mud plugging .. not road use.
     
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