Winter = damp and condensation

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  1. Jim

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    personally Jim i would buy 2 of the 60 watt ones and put 1 at each end of the van same consumption better heat distribution.
     
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    have you seen my lickle motorhome? :BigGrin:
     
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    yes i have :thumb:
    maybe your better with just the one then :Doh:
     
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    Why not just escape from cold, damp Wales and come back down here.

    You can run your internet empire from here in warm sunshine... (well not too sunny today but you know what I mean.)

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    A word of caution.. check with your insurance company that you will still be covered for fire.

    This was discussed before and IIRC Brian (hilldweller) spoke to his insurer who categorically stated that his insurance didn't cover portable heaters or heaters that were not original equipment.

    Of course you may assess the risk and come to the conclusion that a greenhouse heater or dehumidifier pose a very a low risk .. and take a chance.
     
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    been using them for 3 years now

    I have two of them in the RV.. both came from screwfix.... I have one in the bathroom at the back and another against the dinette (back of legs area)...with a guard ...

    Both are left on all the time in the winter and work well.. everything is snug and warm... I have the main boiler set just above freezing to kick in if the temperature really falls... but have found the tube heaters work well... mine are 100 watt and an 80 watt... had to replace the 100 watt last year as it gave up after two years.

    I also run a dehumidifier also from Screwfix .. on timer for about 6 hours a night direct drain out in to the sink and then out via the grey tank that is left open in the winter. Also works well and draws a lot of water out of the air.

    But no warped cupboards and never damp JIM


    Bob:thumb:
     
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    I had a 60w one in the Hobby last year, seemed to keep it about 2 - 3 degrees above the outside temp. Im changing the van later in the month to an Auto sleeper Surrey, its a little bigger so may try a 120w

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    I've run a dehumidifier for several years during the winter.
    We usually keep the moho in a 'ready to go' condition and find that even after several weeks standing the made up bed is ready for instant use with no sign of needing airing.
    Remember that you will never completely remove all moisture from a moho and that is not the aim, but will keep furniture cushions and curtains from absorbing excessive air borne moisture.

    Also I keep a small 900 watt oil-filled rad running at a very low setting. This in tandem with the dehumidifier and its air circulating fan, prevents pockets of cold, moist, stagnant air. Its this stagnant air that causes moulds and mildew.
    If the outside temperatures are warmer than expected then I use a timer(s) to only switch them on overnight when its colder.
     
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    Hi Jim I have just bought one of http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_35011.htm A lot bigger at 1000 w but turns right down on temp control.( I did not buy it for frost protection,mainly for the remote control to save fumbling around at night while in the van) I stuck a similar size in the van a few yrs back that kicked in and out when it needed to but it cost about a tenner a week so I reverted back to emptying soft furnishings into a spare room and left the van cold :BigGrin:(5 min job ) Also have a mate with 8 of the heaters in your link as his primery heating but he leaves 2 on all winter long and says his van is never damp etc and always ready to go :thumb:He built them in under his seating under a shelf type of thing so they do not get kicked etc.
    terry
     
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    Yes, Jim, I think a dehumidifier is the way to go.
    We used one in our previous van - a Rapido aclass. We find we don't need one in our James Cook.
    A heater just helps the air carry more water and just moves it about. The dehumidifier sucks the humidity out of the air. Just make sure you empty the water frequently!:thumb:
     
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    had the tubular heaters in my last caravan under the seat bases and one in the washroom with electric towel rail,another on the sidewall under the fixed bed, excellent job at keeping the caravan warm with a nice amount of background heat and no condensation,also warm air rising in the gap between sidewall and seat backs etc. I have also included them in the build of the new motorhome, along with one of the "frost protectors" from screwfix (it's more of a low wattage heater) http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG...-Mounted%20CH-500P%20Frost%20Protector%20400W It is very handy as with this and the tubular heaters 3x60 wattt a total of 580 watts plus the 60 watt towel rail we very rarely need to use the eberspacher (our main heater)
    obviously to keep condensation at bay it's no good just adding heat without ventilation
     
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    Not sure about the dehumidifier route as with all the built in ventilation and drop out vents I feel that you are probably mostly dehumidifying a lot of the outside air which is why they collect so much moisture.
     
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    For the last three years i have used a 900w oil filled radiator and leave it on a low setting
    i always check it every 2-3 couple of days it works fine for me.
    I always leave all the cupboard doors open and i can't recall having trouble with condensation or mildew.
     
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    better keep an eye on your leccy bill Jim....it will be all of £3 per week :Laughing:

    they are a powerful heater though....i've had to replace 500w ones in a workplace boot drying room with carrier bags completely melted onto them
     
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    got to agree.....as fast as moisture is pulled out of the air, it will just be replaced by moist air entering through the vents.

    dehumidifiers only work efficiently in a sealed room
     
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    I would forget about a dehumidifier for the reasons suggested, unless you want to try to 'dry out' your street!!!! :Doh:

    A small heater coupled with giving the van a good airing at regular intervals is the best bet and move the cushions indoors so there is less materials around to absorb and hold moisture in the first place. Also, don't be tempted to block the vents etc otherwise you are likely to actually increase the amount of moisture in the van as it cannot escape and possibly cause mould etc - a bit like a house with double glazing but no air vents ...
     
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    follow the birds go south very south .
    you know it makes sense .
    whats that saying ?
    the rain in spain is mainly in portugal .ha ha .
    mind be ok in march when i get there i hope . hee hee.
    isnt winter the dryest warmest months of the year?
     
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    Sorry but disagree with the last bit :BigGrin: You will never get the van airtight so fit fridge and water heater vents :thumb: then stick a low heater on to take the chill out of the air :thumb:
    Of course if you had a extremely well insulated S/B Ambulance you wouldn't need the heater to stop doors etc warping :thumb::Doh::BigGrin: :reel:
    Terry
     
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