wind out awning, colour / length / style

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  1. DavidG58

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    Morning all (edit by the time I had finished typing it was well into the afternoon, so afternoon all) (y)

    Several things to ask about / for us to think about and chose

    Our Hymer is champagne colour and has a wind out awning bolted on

    I don't know if they are not available in champagne but ours is silver, not that bad but would look much nicer with a colour match

    It is also IMO oversized, being a demo I think the dealer just did it for show, the carcase length is 5500mm with the canvas length being slightly shorter

    We have a blow up Kampa air, one of the three section XL taller and wider (and heavier) this has slightly bent or possibly simply aggravated a natural bow on such a long awning

    The Kampa fits into the awning bead which means the awning has to be partly extended to expose the bead and get it low enough to reach, again probably aggravating the weight issue. That channel is made from aluminium and no thought can have been given to passing a canvas covered bead into it, the sharp edges have ripped the beading cover really badly, making it hard to get in now and needing repair

    The Omnistor has never gone away fully since we got it, initially there was a problem with the canvas being slightly twisted sorted by @Terry at our first meeting of the great man (y)

    So, (specially for @wigster :LOL:) I now have several choices decisions

    get the awning serviced and sorted, maybe at the same time get it sprayed, but we would still have a very long awning that could distort again and the aluminium bead would not change although we might get it filed smooth

    or change the awning

    then comes a new series of questions

    the current awning is attached to a rail that is in turn attached to the MH, are they universal? am I committed to an Omnistor awning without changing the rail?

    that rail is about 5m long, would it look wrong and maybe unsightly to have some exposed length if I fitted a shorter awning

    Can you get champagne coloured awnings without having a special paint job (not out of the question)

    What about a powered awning, I really fancy that idea, then do you go for a DC or AC option, if AC not sure if they cant be used without mains or you just have to wind it

    Probably far too many questions, but any input would be gratefully read :)

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    Hi david why don't you try a kador strip beading into your awning and some fig of eight connectors this will stop any damage to your awning :)
     
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    thanks for that, we do that already but have found it slides around too much when windy and has come apart at the joints (y)
     
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    You've missed the optimum option! Wouldn't you be better keeping the awning and getting rid of the Hymer given the dodgy headlamp?
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    Ouch!!!
     
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    thanks for that, they still only white, silver or black

    the burgundy idea sounds interesting, will do some research, especially if I have it painted (y)
     
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    The light has also been sorted by Terry :) just needs aligning now (y)

    but thanks for raising the memory :LOL:
     
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    Are you using the right size connectors as they come in 4/6mm and 6/8mm as I have found out :)
     
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    There was a thread on here recently about Kampa air go porches which spoke of the bending issue to the wind out and that the sales people advised using a broom to hold centre up whilst threading the porch to the wind out.
     
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    Stick with Omnistor/Thule if you're changing. Chances are their fixing holes won't be the same as Fiamma. IMO Fiamma awnings are inferior to Omnistor, plus ours is electrically operated and can be a right pita when its not been out for a while. It has to be coaxed out.
     
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    David,, I have an older Hymer and the original owner had a 4.000 awning ( wind out) attached, now he had a bracket fitted which is nearly the whole length of awning,, I just today had an omnistor newer year but used 4.500 mtre put on, and my fear was would it fit to old bracket? Well it was fitted in 5 mins and the bloke said the brackets are all universal, so by that he said either fiama or new omnistor would fit!!!
     
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    @DavidG58 your awning looks the perfect size to me.
    It's just long enough as to not obstruct the opening of your windows.
    In my experience they all bend a little out of shape and/or don't work that well.. you could spend good money repairing/upgrading and end up with the same problems later on...
     
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    Thanks for that Ian. I don't really want to get involved in changing the fixing plate, but do quite like the look of the Dometic electric options, but have also just seen Kens comments about his, knowing my luck it would just become something else to go wrong (y)
     
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    I read that thread and think I even added to the comment, trouble is it becomes a 2 person job, which it really shouldn't be, although we would normally only put it up if away together, in fact that is a for sure, on my own I wouldn't use the Kampa, but the awning distortion means we still need a broom or similar to put it away 'unloaded', it is even worse when the Kampa is attached
     
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    A Burstner has just left here at SAP and it had a champagne 8000 series omnistor I think he paid 1200 at Mbee Motorhomes
    Mine is electric too and 4.5 metres and as Ken said Thule is a better product IMHO
     
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    If you speak to roses awnings, he will buy your old one from you.
    See what he suggests for the replacement.
     
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    Sorry David. If I didn't explain correctly !! The fixing plate I was told will be ok for all canopies,, at least mine is! Lol. Sorry to confuse the matter!!!
     
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    we only have one opening window on that side anyway, the one with our MHF name in it by the bed, but it pushes out from bottom anyway so awning will not be in the way, the other window bizarrely is fixed, even though it has all the fitting=s it would need to open, the TV drops down in front of it which might be the issue, but no idea really

    my thought was reduce the length reduce the risk of dipping in the middle (y)

    but I might just reduce by 500mm if I do change :)
     
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