Will Spain be safe next year ?

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  1. beachcaster

    beachcaster Read Only Funster

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    After weeks of saying they will not need bailing out........Spain now goes cap in hand to anyone who can help them.
    Its in big trouble. Crime up . Rioting. Massive social unrest on the horizon as people take to the streets. And "Austerity" hasnt even hit them hard yet!


    €27bn The amount being cut from Spain's most recent budget.
    11 The number of days Spain's borrowing costs have been at least 5 percentage points higher than Germany's. Greece survived for 16 days without a bailout at the same threshold.
    366,000 The number of people who have lost their jobs in Spain so far this year.
    €19bn The bailout required to save Spanish bank Bankia from collapse.
    62 per cent The fall in value of the benchmark Spanish stock market index, the Ibex, since 2007.
    51.1 per cent The rate of unemployment among Spanish youths under the age of 25.
    15 per cent The expected contraction in house prices over the next year.
    9.8 per cent The amount by which retail sales fell year-on-year in April 2012.

    ( fugures taken from the Independant)

    Its going down the tubes.........will it be safe to travel there next year ?

    barry
     
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    I don't think Spain will be any less safe than it is here.

    There are places you would not go to in the UK just as there places you would not go to in Spain.

    That will not change, but nor do I believe that it will get any worse.

    Not so long ago there were riots, arson, and looting up and down the UK, so does that mean the UK isn't a safe place to visit?

    Look at the high crime rates in the USA. People who have been there, always say it is a safe place to visit.

    It won't stop me going to Spain for the winter.

    Pete:Cool:
     
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    No one knows what will happen if it all goes pear shaped. It could get very ugly down the line. I certainly would not want to own property in Spain or Portugal right now as I just cannot rule out some extreme left or right wing governments rising from the ashes and grabbing land back from ex-pats at best or civil war/unrest at worst. Given very recent history its not even a far fetched assumption.
     
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    Thanks Jim, for that upbeat analysis of the possible future for Iberia.:Rofl1:

    Very reassuring.:Eeek:

    Pete:Cool:
    PS
    I expect JJ will soon be setting up an enclave for displaced Motorhomers.
     
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    FACT: As we read this there are people strategically planning how to get all the ex-pats home from Spain and Portugal if/when it all goes wrong.
     
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    In answer to the original post, In my opinion Spain has NEVER been completely safe.
    Since they stopped me Aframing its best avoided.
     
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    GO ON YOU LOT !!!! KEEP IT UP !!!!!!!!!!!

    Just as I'm about to go out there to buy an apartment.....:Doh:
     
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    Dont be so negative....the property prices are plummeting, you could get the bargain of a lifetime.:thumb:
     
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    Bloody Hell Jim... I just put you forward to become the UK's Supreme Commander...

    Please don't try to repatriate me... :Rofl1:

    JJ :Cool:
     
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    Bloody hell, I could think of at least one funster you would be better off investing in :Eeek:
     
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    Never mind next year what about next month

    We are on the ferry to Bilbao 1st week of July - turning right and into the heart of the riots and tyre burning:Eeek:

    Thank god the motorhome has not got Dunlop written on its side:thumb:
     
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    OH.. I aint negative it's all them above me in the thread....:Rofl1:

    Been looking a long time as a family holiday getaway..
    We haggled what I think is a good deal, the euro exchange has got better and the real good news!! Still going to be motorhoming though..:thumb::thumb:
     
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    Thinking back to Benidorm a few months ago. If they frighten off the tourists places like that will be instant third world. Millions with no income, crime gets worse, it would take generations to recover and if air travel prices increase it will never recover.
     
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    I know Steve... buy my apartment... it would be much, much more affordable than the one you are looking at but you would have a slightly longer walk to the beach... :Rofl1:

    JJ :Cool:
     
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    tourism in Spain

    I consider they are already going that way.

    Costa del Sol, February last year did not feel very safe in the evening and Mallorca in the summer was the first time I noticed locals don't really smile anymore (especially the police force).

    They seem to have lost something. Something that was essentially Spainish.

    Not sure what they have lost but it was not the same friendly atmosphere as in previous years.
    We went to Mallorca at least once a year for twenty years but I doubt we will ever go back.:Sad:
     
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    He IS UK's supreme commander, the FUN bit is just a cover.
     
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    Oh dear. We've not done much Spain, usually the quick package to the sun.

    Benidorm, our first visit in March seemed fine but it struck me what a mammoth machine it is. All that food and things to support the incredible number of beds. The number of Spaniards ( and others ) that takes is mind blowing but with no ties to the place the tourists can just stop overnight.

    Repeat that all round the coasts and it rivals a Hollywood horror movie.
     
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    Having spent more years than I would like to admit working,touring and static in Spain, one thing I have noticed in recent years is the Spanish are making it more and more obvious that we are no longer as welcome as we used to be. Just maybe they blame us for the mess they are in. They have stoped most of the wild camping, forcing campers to use overpriced campsites, made there own laws up to stop Aframing, use underhanded methods to catch unsuspecting motorists and worse still......put the price of beer up. I think its disgraceful and all handouts should be stopped till they bring down the price of beer.
     
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    and they will all want to get on the boat into safe- benefit -Britain like every other dud county, they all want to find a way here for a freebie :Eeek:
     
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    No they don't...

    JJ :Cool:
     
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