Why is Europe Broke

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  1. Larrynwin

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    The roads in Spain , even those that run through rural areas and carry mainly farm traffic are wider than ours and smooth as a babys bum, most are like new and could only have been laid recently. Even the chevrons on bends on major routes have red flashing LEDs that work progressively in the direction of the chevrons. Armco barriers are everywhere and frequently two runs for extra safety. We let our people drown in fenland dykes where the use of barriers could prevent this :Eek!:
    The cost of this level of quality and safety must have been immense in such a large country and its easy to see why Spain and probably Europe are virtually bankrupt.
    I must say driving over here is a pleasure, very little traffic and fabulous roads :thumb:
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  2. mick noe

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    same in France new roads /bridges/ viaducts where does our road fund license get spent?
     
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  3. Larrynwin

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    We also saw it in Cyprus 3 years ago, brand new roads everywhere , we probably paid for them through our EU contributions :Eek!:
     
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    The main causes for UK roads being a mess are utility operators digging up our roads and not putting them back in good condition, we use loads of sault and we get hard frosts. Then of course our roads carry a lot more traffic than some other countries.
    I dont recal the roads in Italy or Greece being too good.
    France should have some good roads with the tolls they charge their A roads
     
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  5. Larrynwin

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    Buttons most of the roads here are like new , the armco barriers have not had time to tarnish.
    In our suburban areas yes the roads are always being dug up but our motorways, dual carriageways and a roads are not a patch on these.
     
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    Not intending to be political in any respect.... but simple maths..... silky smooth black tarmac, shiny armco, flashy led arrows equals bust economy.

    Cracked tarmac, duff roadmarkings, bent road signs equals economy slowly pulling out of the s##t and not requiring a bail out.

    One is most of sunny Europe and one is the Uk.... you work out which is which !

    Having said that I'm driving on the first paragraph and it is brilliant....mind you I expect I am paying for it thro the EU !
     
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    I put a post on some time ago regarding roundabouts in Spain that dont go anywere. The house building boom has ground to a halt in Spain so they have to do something to get cash from the EU.
    Have a look at the big signs on new stretches of road....Paid for by the EU.:Angry:
     
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    that'll be because of the excessive salaries, backhanders and corruption in officialdom of these countries....nowt left for the countries infrastructure

     
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    I think the fact we dont need a bail out is little to do with the state of our roads.
    It is to do with the fact that we are not tied to the euro....and therefore have
    the ability to devalue sterling to survive. We have done this and that is why a pound is worth 30% less than it used to be .
    The european project is doomed...............a political fantasy wrecking peoples lives. Run by unelected eurocrats who should be put in prison
    for their decisions.

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    Hi
    We did hear that they are paying the cost of their new roads back to the EU (well Portugal anyway !!) Is this true ?? or are Portuguese gov. stringing their tax payers along !!:BigGrin:
    Don't know how their toll roads are, but the rest seem really good to us (maybe we are used to British roads, or just easy to please:Wink:)
    Nigel & Pamala----Zahora
     
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    because most of them dont want to work :Rofl1: :Rofl1: :Rofl1: :Rofl1:
     
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    Go to Madeira and they've got a marvellous elevated road all around the island, all bridges and tunnels, a massive civil engineering project on a volcanic dot in the Atlantic. Plus an airport runway that runs out into the sea. Must have cost a bloody arm and a leg. All done with European money!

    What have we had form the EU?

    Sod all - Nothing but grief :Angry:
     
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    Just travelled both ways from Narbonne Plage (France) to Bologna (Italy) in snow. The roads were fine but traffic was deliberatly bunched behind snow clearing vehicles. One vehicle in each lane clearing snow and gritters following behind. There was no snow on the carrageways using this method as the artics and cars following spread the salt after it had been spread before it was washed away. In Italy they were using cement mixers as ploughs on the Autoroutes, not dedicated monsters that we have in the UK which stand for most of the year unused but still requiring servicings and maintenance. It reminded me of how it was in the 50s and 60s in the UK. The Autoroutes surfaces were very good compared to the UK. However in the towns they were in much poorer condition.

    There was 2ft of snow in Bologna but everything just kept going on the ice roads. Most of the vehicles we saw in the town were fitted with snow chains. Even the Motorhome dealer was selling antifreeze for the gray and black tanks so this must not be just a rare incident.

    When the snow got bad the Police just closed the road to any vehicle over 7.5 tonns and forced them into parking areas.

    Another thing we noticed on this trip was that a lot of the service areas along the Med coast and in Italy has "Camper Dump" points clearly signed from the road. We guessed these were also used by coaches as they were mostly near the bus parking area. A lot of the Dump points were however closed by the freezing weather and snow but we still managed to use some. We wildcamped for a week in Motorway service areas and a couple of shopping centre car parks.

    Parked back at Narbonne Plage Aire and setting off back to the UK tomorrow as our batteries seem to have all been taken out by a faulty battery to battery charger (not Stirling) which resulted in us having to use the breakdown cover (RAC commercial through Comfort) in Piacenza. Our starter battery and Alternator were wiped out. We have now found our leisure batteries are also not holding a charge. So its back to the UK for us instead of wintering in southern France and possibly Spain.

    John
     
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    Sorry to hear of your charging problems and early return. Still spring is not too far away :Smile:
    Larry
     
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    :Rofl1: EU migrant's :Rofl1:
     
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    roads

    It's the same in Croatia and Slovenia, drive out of italy at Trieste first thing you see is a huge blue sign telling you that the new roads were funded by the EEC, all nice and new,great to drive and very quite too.
    We (the UK) puts loads of cash into the EU plus loads to UK government via the multiple taxes that we have to pay and yet we have the worst roads in Europe and beyond.
    Itt's about time that whoever is in charge (Cameron) should take note and start spending on the roads before it brings our transport system to complete ruin.

    :thumb: :BigGrin:
     
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