Who can get me through my MOT??

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  1. juliandavies

    juliandavies Read Only Funster

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    Having been off-road on a seasonal for 5 months so I was amazed at how well my Chevy Sea Breeze drove (thanks for all the tips telling me to drive it round regularly etc)...sadly I failed my MOT.
    Were they extra strict because it was Croydon Council (Stubbs Mead)?

    Here's what it failed for (my comments in CAPS):
    1 - Nearside (idler arm) Ball joint has excessive play (PARTS? REPAIR?)
    2 - Offside Rear fog lamp missing (HAS NEVER HAD ONE! AND HAS PASSED MOTS FOR MANY YEARS IN THE UK)
    3 - Nearside Stop lamp not working (UNACCEPTABLE OF COURSE BUT IT PASSED WITH THIS LAST YEAR - ITS NOT THE BULB OR THE FUSE AND NO-ONE SEEMS TO BE ABLE TO FIX IT!)
    4 - Offside front Brake hose excessively damaged (VERY STRANGE - IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE HAS CUT A SMALL SLICE ACROSS IT - ARE THESE EASY TO REPLACE?)
    5 - Offside brake pipe inadequately clipped (PRETTY FUSSY I THOUGHT - SHOULDNT BE HARD TO CLIP IT UP)
    6 - Exhaust emissions carbon monoxide content at idle excessive (HE RECKONED THIS SHOULD BE SORTED WITH SOME TWEAKING)
    Advisory items: Nearside and offside Track rod end ball joint has slight play (NOT FAILURE ITEMS)

    Two questions for my MHFun gurus:
    1 - I'm at Alderstead Heath (Surrey) for 3 weeks now - anyone know anywhere I could get these repairs done near? Any idea how much I might be looking at? Are there any places that might still pass my MOT?
    2 - Never even considered this before but how outrageous is it to keep moving from site to site every 3 weeks untaxed/MOTd? (I EXPECT TO BE TOLD TO NOT BE SUCH A FOOL FOR THIS QUESTION!)

    Many thanks in advance
    Still gutted it didn't pass! :cry:
    Jules
     
  2. JeanLuc

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    I can't answer the technical stuff, but don't even think about trying to get it passed by another test station. As I understand it, they are all linked online now and as soon as the next tester inputs your details, they will see that it has just been failed. I stand to be corrected by others with more knowledge, but it seems to me that you have just got to 'bite the bullet' and get the items fixed.

    Philip
     
  3. JJ

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    Hi Jules... Bad luck with the mot... it is always a nervous time... not up with the American spares/repair scene but some Funster will surely know a sympathetic mechanic/enthusiast.

    As for the "other" item... there people who always obey all the rules what ever and others who don't always. In an earlier life I used to run a motorhome on one mot every two years by clever timing of buying the tax disc. I was caught twice without an mot and the police let me off... once when I was stopped and once after the "producer" phase. Once I was fined (£20) (no points)

    I always had tax and insurance (and the debate whether you are insured without an mot is still "open" in my mind) but on a practical level, these days the police cars can run a computer check on your number plate in seconds and life is much more risky!!!

    Thanks to my current (probably tempory) situation I have been 100% legal for years but I still get all nervous when in the vicinity of the "Boys in Blue"!!!!

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  4. Fatalhud

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    So if I read this right
    You want to know where to get a dodgy MOT and you want us to praise you for driving around with no tax, MOT, or insurance that will most likely be null and void

    :thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::censored:2

    Alan H
     
  5. teensvan

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    Hi.

    No 2 The fog lamp must be on the O/S to pass UK MOT

    No 3 It may be a bad earth connection on the bulb holder clean all connections.

    No 4 Yes you can change the pipe but you will have to bleed the brake system.

    steve & ann. ------------- teensvan
     
  6. madbluemad

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    I agree with JeanLuc, Your fail notification will now be on computer and if you submit it elswhere they will know.

    I woudnt drive it on the road until it had been retested and passed. Most police cars on the road today can tell you what you had for breakfast.

    My mh failed last year on a broken fog lamp. Less than two weeks after it broke again. I fit a new fog lamp every year just to get through the mot. I know take it off as soon as the mot is done, put it back on next year.

    Its difficult to say whether the tester is picky but I doubt it. He has a check list to work to and thats it.

    For the amount of bits and pieces wrong, if you cant do it yourself, take it into a garage. Cant the test station garage do it for you ?

    Jim
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  7. johng

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    hi
    erm

    repairs dont sound terrible to me... i would do them myself but have no time.
    Redhill MOT guys seem to be a nice place to visit, for my old chevy. I dont know how else to put it, it will fail there if there's something wrong, but they tell you to go to hell in such a way you look forward to it :Rofl1:

    Driving these days without legal stuff.. dont...
     
  8. rainbow chasers

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    Firstly - drive it without docs and it will get seized. For a car, this would cost £115 release fee, £12-20 per day storage fee and you will have to get them to MOT it and get it taxed BEFORE it will be released. Then you kust have the court fine/ban for driving without valid docs, which will be around 8 points £250-1000 fine, and possibly ban 6 months- 1 year. You are also an RV i beleive, so this will come under heavy recovery - this will cost alot more...could be anything up to 1k.

    That out of the way, the bits needed.

    Idler arm - parts can be gained from RV spares, grab a brake pipe while you are at it.

    Brake light - probably a bad connector/earth Clean connectors and run an earth wire to a good point and see if it works. If you really cannot suss it out, you can do one of two things.
    Firstly, run a temporary repair from the working light by using a couple of lengths of wire. This will them run from the otjer ones' circuit, and as long as it doesn't dim the original light, should be fine for mot purpose.
    Second option is to cover the rear lights with gaff tape, and use a trailer board, secured to the rear and plugged into your towing electrics. Assuming they are working, would give you a new set of working rear lights suitable for mot

    Fog Lamp - car accessory store - around £5. Bolt to the rear skirt, wire to fog system or on switch - job done.

    Insecure brake pipe - cable tie it.

    Emissions, wind back the fuel pump 1/2 turn. Make sure the vehicle is ragged to the mot station!! If it has been standing a while, it will need a good clear out. Warm engine and turbo...this may be all that is needed.

    It sounds alot, but your only major thing would be the emissions, but they said they will adjust that, so get them to do it! They barke hose may need fiitting too if you are not competant at that - all in it should not cost too much in labour.:thumb:
     
  9. buttons

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    Google has to be your best option, here is one to start.
    http://www.yanktanks.co.uk/carpartsales/partsUK.htm

    If you go for option 2 then you will end up in a compound with huge release fees and still requiring an mot before it is released. Not as if an RV is low profile.:driving2:
     
  10. Larrynwin

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    None of your list looks expensive, spares are generally readily available from the likes of Spannerman or www.abp-accessories.co.uk or www.mobilerv.co.uk who would also travel to do the work ( obviously at extra cost )
    The sister site to this one is dedicated to RV owners www.rvoc.co.uk , you may pick up more info if you post there.
     
  11. Geo

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    Feel free to get a second opinion/test, it wont pop up its already had a test somewhere else:thumb:
    We can not get any info on previous tests without going to look for it
    Id be interested to see what figures he quoted on your idling Co fail
    Most testers get it wrong on RVs, and apply incorrect test limits:Doh:
    Geo
     
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    I am pretty sure (and I m sure someone will correct me if I am not) that the only safe way to drive your RV is to the MOT & Garage you have chosen with a MOT booked in.
    That way I think you would be safe, but as already said to many implications to drive it when it has failed and the current one has run out.
     
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    Thats the info that I was given by the DVLA.

    Jim
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    must be pre-booked and not just turning up 'on spec'

    if stopped the police WILL check with the test station and if you should have an accident on route, then you may still be prosecuted for any 'unroadworthy' items.
     
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    Regarding the brake hose, Change both of them whilst your at it.
    These flexihoses are notorious for giving problems when they are over 10 years old.
    They coase caliper drag,then NO brakes at all,I have had this happen twice on 2 different RVs.
     
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    I think if you read the post again the original poster has no concern about driving the vehicle just to the MOT station
    He finds it amusing that when he moves to a different caravan site every 3 weeks he does so with no tax or MOT:Angry::Angry:

    "2 - Never even considered this before but how outrageous is it to keep moving from site to site every 3 weeks untaxed/MOTd? (I EXPECT TO BE TOLD TO NOT BE SUCH A FOOL FOR THIS QUESTION!)"
     
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    Go ahead, drive your RV with no tax, MOT or insurance between sites every three weeks. When you get caught, which you will, the vehicle can be siezed and crushed, yes CRUSHED!! Unles you're a Itinerant of course?

    D.
     
  19. ourcampersbeentrashed

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    Hi Jules

    Redbridge council do mots and repairs. They are excellent and thorough. We dont take our motorhome anywhere else now. They saved us a fortune on our car recently which needed a new sensor fitted.

    Never used stubbs mead but used to use LBWF. Our experience is all councils that have MOT stations inspect to the highest of standards. If its wrong they will tell you and especially with anything relating to brakes, none of it is petty - after all no brakes at the right time, means you could end up totalling your mh which you dont want.

    Good luck xxxxx
     
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    Interesting point Geo....

    They remarked my idling CO emissions were just over the limit on hydrocarbons....:Eeek:

    That is why I'm spending so much time on the ignition. carb calibration and fuel side....:Doh:

    Where do they get the reference data from?
     
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