Which side for exterior Gas filler

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  1. sallylillian

    sallylillian Funster Life Member

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    I am in the process of specifying my refillable gas installation and have come to the conclusion that an exterior fill point as against one in the bottle locker will be a better bet. For not having to open a locker in a possible tight spot, getting refused to fill, and also so I can easily connect a "normal" bottle in the event of exhaustion of the main bottles.
    My experience of filling our large fixed gas tank in the 3 years of RV ownership was only twice as we only used it for the hob and the fridge sometimes. So which is the prefered side when filling LPG at a garage, left side or right side?
     
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    Same side as your fuel filler cap...(y)

    Mine is NOT and it`s a pain in the bum if I need both diesel and gas..:mad:
     
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    As mo said! I have them both on the same side and it's the easiest way if you need a fill up
     
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    Convenience is one thing, safety may be another. When I had my fixed tank installed I was advised to have the filler on the opposite side to the fridge. I.E. as far away as possible from a potential naked flame.
     
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    sallylillian Funster Life Member

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    Thanks Old Mo, there is a logic to that, my thoughts were which side the pump might present itself as there are not normally multiple LPG fill points.

    That works for Old Mo's suggestion as diesel is on opposite to fridge.
     
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    Your fridge should not fire onto gas untill the 12volts has been switched off for 15 minutes for that same safety reason.
     
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    Exterior filler YES and not in the locker door (ours is) same side as fuel might be practical but proximity to the bottles might be the overriding factor, does a longer fill pipe mean more blowback when you disconnect the gun (don't know if there is NRV in fill point or just at the bottle)
     
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    Sods law you pull into crowded forecourt on wrong side of pump. For small extra cost why not have a fill point installed on both sides of van? PS,there is NRV in full point.
     
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    sallylillian Funster Life Member

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    Looks like I will be fitting my fill point on the opposite of the van to my bottle locker, reasonably straight forward I think, However the Gaslow fillers come with a max 1.5 metre hose and I will need at least 3 metres with jiggling over and around stuff. I seem to remember a post maybe from Andy, you can use any length hose, do I recall correctly and what hose as this would be somewhat exposed under the chassis?
     
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    My advice is if you are using refillable cylinders is have the fill point immediately adjacent to the locker contain the cylinders. Not on the door of the locker or inside though. Keep the pipes as short as possible without them being overly tight.

    It would indeed be handy if it was the same side as the diesel filler cap. Mine is a self build panel van and I put the gas cylinders on the same side as the diesel filler cap meaning in about half the petrol stations I go to I get diesel then move forward and get LPG all in one go. Confuses some station attendants though.
     
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    sallylillian Funster Life Member

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    So as my diesel fill is on the other side to the bottle locker, which is the best, near the bottle locker or on the side of the diesel filler, I cannot have both unfortunatly! My RV had dual fillers for diesel!
     
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    You can buy up to 3.0 metres here and through connectors
    http://www.gasit.co.uk/index.php?_a=category&cat_id=9

    Fast Fill OEM Hose.
    3 mtr JIC Fast Fill 'Hydraulic Style' E67.01 Hose with Straight Ends.
    Connects the vehicles Brass JIC fillpoint directly to a GAS IT, Gaslow Refillable bottle, GAS IT 4 hole Refillable Gas tanks, Alugas & more.
    These Fast Fill hoses are held in stock in lengths from 0.5 mtr up to 3 mtr. Sizes over this can be made or 2 or more hoses can be connected together with a separately purchased JIC Male Male connector - sold on our webshop.
     
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    Our filler for the LPG is the opposite side to the Diesel filler it can be a pain at times when we need both fuels. We usually to stagger our fills for this reason although that is not always possible.

    I would be a bit concerned having my filler pipe some three meters from the tank. You are going to end up with a lot of LPG in your rubber pipework hanging under the van unless you can fabricate some metal pipe work, not a good idea in my humble opinion.

    Our filler is in the gas bottle locker and not wishing to tempt fate we have never have problems when we fill up.

    Sorry was writing this when Techno posted his reply.
     
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    No instructions like that came with my fridge, the instructions are to turn the switch to one of three positions depending on which fuel you wish to use, no mention of any time delay. The gas system is designed to be used at any time even when traveling, primerrily to allow heating in the hab area while moving, we usually leave the fridge on gas 100% of the time.
     
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    Martin refers to AES fridges (automatic energy selection) with yours it will stay on what you have selected manually. So you must not be on gas when entering fuel stations
     
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    Thanks Andy, I knew you'd pop up, Trophychap commented on gas in that length of pipe, do you have any comments on that if it is indeed an issue?
     
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    It is high pressure pipe made for the purpose of filling. There is no "hanging down under the van" it must of course be securely fastened with metal P clips. We are only talking the width of the van here with enough for the bends and to reach the top of the bottle.
     
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    Hose - yes Techno is correct, I commented to this effect at the end of my post.

    Our heating does that too. But even so with the gas turned 'On' at the control panel the fridge goes onto 12v virtually as soon as the engine is started and does not spark up to light on gas again until 'some time' - can't recall exactly how long - after the engine has been turned off at any time, precisely to prevent the risk of a spark while the vehicle is stopped at pumps.
     
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    Yes I turn the gas off when refilling, but its something I have to do. So by having the filling on the opposite of the van, it reduces that risk should I fail to turn it off.
    Incidentally I had a auto fuel selector on a van I hired in Canada, but it only switched between mains and gas, I was advised by the hire company not to move it to 12v. I tried it on 12v during the 14 hour ferry crossing from Nova Scotia to Newfoundland but it flattened the leisure battery and all sorts of alarms were sounding when we returned to the van. All was well when the engine was started.
     
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    I agree with OldMo and the others who say the same side as the fuel filler would be ideal. Mine are opposite and I frequently have to fill both so end up moving around between pumps where there was a DERV one next to the LPG. Best if you can fill the LPG first though just in case they query the use of it.
     
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