What Should I Do With My Engel Fridge?

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  1. JJ

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    I bought an expensive, portable Engel compressor fridge.
    I paid £500 for it plus £35 to send it to Portugal.

    It was meant to draw 1.5 to 3.5 amps when running. The whole point of the thing was the ad that said you can run it without worrying about flat batteries.

    It arrived, worked sort of but my Hymer gauge, (roughly accurate with all other appliances) showed a draw of just over 10 amps when I plugged the fridge in.

    (When I plug in my tiny laptop it shows 5-7 amps using the same gauge. The LEDs draw 1 amp.)

    Also the compressor cooling fan ran all the time even when the compressor wasn't working.

    I was told by email this fan running was not right, and it should not draw so much current.

    I returned the unit to the UK. It cost €68 to do so.

    They have now tested it and say it is running to spec. Nothing wrong with it, only drawing 1.5 - 3 amps and the fan IS meant to run all the time.

    Very saddened by this waste of time and money.

    Now own a fridge which is in Southampton and doesn't perform as I thought it would.

    It draws 10 amps from my Hymer but 1.5 - 3.5 amps in their workshop.

    What should I do?

    JJ :Cool:

    Could they be measuring amps @ 240 a/c?
     
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    I wonder if it's tricky selling and it's 1.5-3.5 averaged over 24 hours. So 10A and it runs 30% of the time.

    Different in a hot country of course.
     
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    What model is it ?
     
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    You could always take the guts out of it and turn it into a Smoker
     
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    I know am an old softy but go on then I will take it off your hands. Leave it there and I will get it picked up shortly :thumb:.
     
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    Have got a lovely camping smoker....used once if anyone is interested.
     
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    I had an old, circa 50s upright that I stripped out, one with a steel drawer in the bottom, it was great for using as a hot smoker. A few Khowai or Yellow Jacks hung on steel reinforcing and Manuka saw dust, 30 minutes impatiently waiting, then!!! Ambrosia!:thumb:
     
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    Is it something to do with lower voltage in Portugal than the UK?

    I am hopeless but if a unit is designed for 240v but only gets say 220 v then I think it still works but uses more current.

    Hopefully an expert on this sort of thing will clear it up.
     
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    Just realised you are probably off grid so it wouldn't matter even if my wild theory was right ( which I doubt)

    Sorry - it was too late to edit.:Doh:
     
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    It is a 12 volt only fridge/freezer.

    TR 14L or something like that...

    JJ
     
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    All that money you could have bought you a season ticket on City:thumb:
     
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    I suspect they are testing it on 240V using an inverter, I suggest maybe someone in the areas could pop in and be shown thecurrent draw they suggest it has. Postage is costing an arm and a leg. Mind you they are testing it at much lower temperatures than you experienced this summer and therefor would consume more in Portugal.
     
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    i still say get a inverter and use a household 240v fridge .
    mind they have gone up just lately .
    but sorry you are having trouble jj.
    i,m more than happy with my set up .friends have had 12v compressors but they arent happy with them .
     
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    1.5amps at 12v is a mere 18watts

    3.5amps at 12v is 42watts.

    for a compressor motor :Eeek:....i dont think so :Doh:

    10amps is 120watts which sounds more realistic to me.

     
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    Is it this model ?

    ENGEL 14LTR 12v FRIDGE/FREEZER
    14 Litre Chest Fridge / Freezer F-Series New Model! Lower Current Draw. Lower Noise Level. High dome lid, double door version of the MRFD-015. This unit is a totally portable yet very powerful 12 volt fridge / freezer for cars, trucks and boats. Very popular with drivers that are regularly moving from one vehicle to another and need to take their fridge with them, simply slide the carry strap over your shoulder and take your ENGEL with you. To secure this unit in your vehicle use the Transit Slide Lock and adapter plate part # TSL17 and TSLPLATE. Three Year Warranty. Capacity: 14Ltr. [HI]Voltage: 12V DC - 0.5 - 2.8 amps.[/HI] Colour: Two tone grey. External Dimensions : W442 x D284 x H398mm.
    Ref: MD14-F (OE No: 07045)

    MPS Price: £ 499.99 inc VAT (EACH)
     
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    You've got it in one Jim.

    The very advert that sold it to me (after checking with Funsters of course.).

    The same company.

    JJ :Cool:
     
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    What size cable do you have it running on? If it's to small the voltage drop is hugh and the current is increased, I had a waeco and had the same issues,

    A good indication is the brightness of the fridge light, does it look dim?

    I would suggest you try it on a seperate leisure battery and monitor it with a current clamp.

    Anthony
     
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    so which should it be 1.5 > 3.5amps...OR...0.5 > 2.8amps

    they state one value in their advert yet another in their reply to you. :Doh:

    and why does a compressor fridge need a fan ?
     
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    You could have found the problem Antony although I plugged its own (quite fat) cable directly into the Hymer socket which I understood to be able to handle 16 amps and was therefore expecting it to be able to handle 3.5 amps.

    No fridge light here... it is an over the shoulder with its strap, portable job.

    JJ :Cool:
     
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    Hi JJ

    I concur with Anthony ,

    cable size is critical to minimise volt drop.. the longer the run, the greater the volt drop..

    For a 3amp x 12v supply , cable length 4mt , ... 4mm cable is required to keep losses at 1%

    a handy DC cable sizing tool ... http://www.solar-wind.co.uk/cable-sizing-DC-cables.html
     
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