What replacement leisure batteries?

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  1. Richard Birkett

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    It seems that my leisure batteries may need replacing, I currently have 2 number 210 amp hour Exide Gel batteries. This is the 1st time I've had gels as all previous vans had traditional wet batteries. Are gels worth the extra cost?
     
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    I personally think Gels are to be avoided unless you live on a boat or want to mount them on their sides... AGM or flooded are better in my opinion.
     
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    I've got gels and would replace with gels. They take longer to charge, but also longer to discharge. Personal choice really :) if you do change, check settings on regulator and charger as there may be a selection switch for the type of batteries you are using.
     
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    I'm a fan of Gel's 2 x 80 A/H gels in the last van still going strong when I sold it at nearly 6 years old. Know other Hymer owners where they are still going at 9 years. Only downside is they take longer to charge. They can accept an 80% DOD which means a 80 A/H gel will give similar performance to a 110 A/H wet cell.
     
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    I also like GEL's and have not been persuaded otherwise yet. Yes they are more expensive so need to outlast the competition. @Richard Birkett how old are yours.

    From what I have read GEL's are less affected by sulphation if a battery is not kept at fully charged state and they will tolerate discharge down to 80% which some deep cycle lead acid will but certainly not all.

    Just to add ours 2x80ah EXIDE's are now 9 years old and still powering the microwave etc.
     
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    Thanks everyone!
    I decided to go with the same Exide Gels as existing, Tayna Batteries gave me a discount off the website price so placed the order with them. It then suddenly occured to me that the batteries may be under the dealer warranty, I contacted Southdown who immediately said they were. A call to Tayna and they canceled the order and the batteries should arrive on Friday ( all 140kg).

    Great service from both companies.
     
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    As you were prepared to buy two new ones anyway i would have kept them and installed all four.

    840ah.....A good bank size for any situation.

    Maybe a bit on the heavy side though at 1/4 ton.
     
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    Too late for the OP but worth a read for anyone else who may be thinking gels are better ..

    http://sterling-power.eu/support-faq-2.htm

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    The key question
    Another way to approach this subject is the simple Irish way (being Irish myself). I went onto the web and obtained 3 different battery type prices, these were the first prices I came to and have no reflection on any company. I was looking for about a 100 amp hour battery.

    • 100 amp hour leisure. Normal open lead acid (so called leisure) £49.99
    • 100 amp hour AGM = £175
    • 100 amp hour Gel = £265.59
    So in my simple mind the AGM is about 3 times more expensive than the standard one. And the Gel, about 5 times more. So the question is; if these batteries are 3 – 5 times more expensive than the standard one, what do they do that is 3 – 5 times better? Do they last 3 – 5 times longer? (I think not, more like the reverse). Do they charge 3 – 5 times faster to reduce your engine running hours? (Only in their dreams.) So rather than ask me weird questions; please ask the sales man, who is trying to sell this stuff for cycling, exactly what you are getting that is 3 – 5 times better than standard lead acid batteries. Then please let me know as I could do with a good laugh.
     
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    We have 3 x Deta 140Ah (Exide) GEL batteries and IMO they have outperformed other battery banks which we've had in two narrow boats. We can use a hairdryer, heated tongs, microwave, Remoska and a Slow Cooker courtesy of a big inverter, via the said battery bank and 305 watts of solar. Have been out since 6th January and in that time spent only 3 nights on hook up.(y) Wouldn't hesitate to replace them with the same.(y)
     
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    The guy that runs Sterling has always dismissed Gel's, but from my own experience & other Hymer/German Motorhome owners have found them to have very a long life making them cost effective, also the price of them has dropped by nearly 40% over the last couple of years. An Exide Gel used to be around £240 can now be had for under £150.
    When my AGM's get to the end of their life I will probably replace them with Gel's if I plan to keep the van for more than a further couple of years.
     
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