What age MH is best?

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  1. JumboBeef

    JumboBeef Read Only Funster

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    Hello all,

    I am looking to buy a MH, but in a couple of months time. It will be approx 20' long/5 berth and we intend to keep it for a long time.

    Now, the question is this: what age is best for a MH to be? I will not buy a new one, for much the same reason as I will not buy a new car: depreciation.

    I don't want to buy a 20 year old one because I want something which will (hopefully!) not need much doing to it.

    But, what is the best age to buy a MH, when depreciation levels off a bit, and before bits start falling off it?

    I'm guessing around five years old?

    Thanks.
     
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    Beware the Fiat Judder.

    So that puts you up to 2006 for the previous non juddering chassis.
     
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    Between 3 and 5 years old is best (most of the niggles have been sorted and depreciation has just levelled out a bit).
     
  4. DESCO

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    This is very much a question of choice. Motorhomes can go on for a long time it depends on how they are looked after. If you look at the base chassis this is a van base and most white vans are not expected to be in use for more than 5 years, so tend to be built with this in mind, most bodies built on to these are joined at the edges of panels and after time are prone to leaking, unless looked after.
    Also to take into account are improvements in insulation, and more modern equipment fitted, so as you see many factors come into play. Motorhomes do not depreciate so rapidly as cars so this also is a factor, so as you see it's a matter of finding what suits you and your pocket.

    Hope this helps some.


    Dave:thumb::thumb:
     
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    I think that the only thing you can say is that you may not want a new one because of depreciation and all of the teething problems that some people get with some new ones.

    You dont want an old one if you can afford it because of the inherent problems that old age brings about.

    Mine was four years old when I bought it and everything worked perfectley but maybe I was just lucky. Two years further on and everything is still working perfectley and with the quality of build I dont expect anything major to go wrong.

    If I had had the money I may well have bought a new one but I doubt it because the one I have caught our eye and we wanted it.

    Depreceation is a dufficult thing to forecast with m/h's. Unless the model of m/h that you are going to buy is a popular one and you can compare yours with some that are on the market then its very difficult to value.

    I think you just have to have a really good look around and when you see the one for you, you will know it.

    Cheers
    Jim
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    Buying a 20 year old van you could spend as much as the purchase price restoring it, but that will still be a fraction of a the price of a new one so it really is up to you. Our old 27yr old Mercedes has not done 100k miles out of an expected lifespan of 650k miles, will the engine ever wear out, well not in my lifetime.:Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    look at the base vehicle

    fords a good drive

    fiat/peugeot seem to be problematic with a lot of people.

    mercedes expensive if getting an older one parts service etc
     
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    I am always suprised at how few Ford-based MHs there are.......?
     
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    Quality is remembered long after price is forgoten.A true saying,So better to buy a slightly older quality conversion than a newer cheapo.But thats only my opinion.
     
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    I think the reason for fewer Ford based models is that they sell plenty of vans without needing the motorhome market so do not give the converters such a good deal.
    I have heard it said that Fiats come as BOGOF in supermarket speak.


    Dave:thumb::thumb:
     
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    buying motorhome

    hi
    always buy on condition, make sure everything is working as it should.
    no ducato's after 2006 there are good ones after this but i wouldn't take the chance.
    there are more and more ford based motorhomes in the country now that surprises me
    the dethleffs ones with the different coloured cabs look superb
    good luck
     
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    I wouldn't look at the 'age factor' too much. What makes you think a five year old mh will be better than a twenty five year old one? The shiny bits?

    On a site in Poland this year, the van parked next to mine was a thirty year old lwb Mercedes owned by an elderly Dutch couple. The guy had converted it himself and i only wish i'd taken photographs of it to show, especially the interior which he had hand built using quality hardwood.....something you would struggle to find in even the most expensive mh's. The bodywork was also immaculate and not a spot of rust to be seen anywhere. OK so it looked an 'old fashioned' motorhome, but it actually drew more attention than the pricey flash on site!

    As he was retired it took just six months to complete, and of course.....virtually depreciation free!
     
  13. errpaul

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    We bought an autosleeper (ford cab) which is 10 years old, and think it's great.
    We recently went to look at some new vans, and some seemed quite flimsy, as if they'd fall apart in weeks!! I can't remember the coachbuilders, and don't really have a great knowledge of which builders are better than others, but would take our autosleeper any day, especially looking at price.

    Ours was very well looked after and everyone is suprised when they find out it's 10 years old:thumb:

    My point is age isn't everything:Wink:
     
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    Agree with the above poster.

    As an example the last caravan i owned was a 1988 Bucaneer Elan 15, one of the last coachbuilt from that company as they were taken over in '89/'90 by some other company (can't remember who exactly).

    Everything in my caravan was solid build quality finish with no leaks or damp anywhere, yet it was a 16 year old van when i bought it. Only downside was it's weight but a lighter van inevitably starts falling apart after just a few years use. Look at any cheap five year old lightweight. It may still have a shine on it but the panels and seams will already be parting company.
     
  15. JumboBeef

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    Thanks for the replies!

    OK, forgetting age of the MH, what shall I buy? I need:

    1/ max length about 20'
    2/ four/five berth (only the two of us but we have three large dogs and so need the extra space)
    3/ between £15K and £20K (although I'm more than happy to spend less!)

    Looking at Fords, this seems nice :thumb:
     
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    Auto-sleeper are a good motorhome not up quite to their older models with the glass fibre bodies but still a very good manufacturer. The transit base goes without saying is a reliable workhorse with spares easy and cheap. If every thing else is in order could be a good bye.


    Dave:thumb::thumb:
     
  17. ronald4874

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    M/H Purchase

    Jumbo,
    I believe most M/H bodies are OK but the layout must suit you. As far as the total unit is concerned its only as good as the weakest link, ie, the chassis. As been already said, most chassis are rated at 5 years only, every year thereafter a bonus. I bought mine new 8 years ago, at 7 years, as predicted by some, the front sub-frame rotted through and had to be changed, the last MOT has indicated all brake pipes, front wheel bearings and number plates will be required to be changed for next MOT. As far as the body and internal area is concerned, excellent, so at 32000 miles I can't grumble.
    By the way check all the tyres for age, over 6 years they need changing even though the treads may show little wear. I have had a total of 8 tyres on my unit.
     
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    quote:2/ four/five berth (only the two of us but we have three large dogs and so need the extra space)

    If there are only 2 of you I think you would get more 'space' in a 2 berth. A 20 ft van is just that 20ft. Try and squeeze in accomodation for 5 peeps and you will be reducing available space for freedom of movement for you all.

    We have a 2 berth LP 5.99mtrs so about 20 ft, We have 2 dogs EBT and tall collie cross and a rear lounge which can be used as 2 singles so relatively long. We don't feel overwhelmed by not having space to move about. The dogs can flop, we can flop and still there is room for someone to nip to the loo. Unless of course you need the seat belts. Just a thought.

    regards

    Karen
     
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  19. Bulletguy

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    Good choice, especially if it's the non-turbo engine. With a Ford base vehicle you can be sure of good spares availability anywhere in UK and many european countries. Something you need to bear in mind as priority.

    One point you just mentioned though..........three large dogs. :Eek!::Eek!:

    I think room would be minimal even in 20' of motorhome. You need a trailer to stick 'em in!
     
  20. JumboBeef

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    Ah, maybe they should go into a roof box :Rofl1:

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    This is Molly......

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    ...and this is Dylan and Harry. They do tend to take up quite a bit of space!
     
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