Welsh Road Signs

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  1. Barclaybasher

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    Just returned from a trip from Derby to Bala

    The best part of the journey was in Wales, but one thing stood out - as it always has - road signs in duplicate - English and Welsh - confusing, unnecessary and a waste of tax payers money - even village names that were almost the same duplicated - PC gone mad

    This trip I noticed that all the business signs - advertising, descriptions were almost all only in English

    Why ?

    Businesses recognise that English is the common language - to repeat in Welsh would cost more and confuse customers - so they don't use Welsh


    So public money is spent on both but business takes the sensible and less costly path

    I can understand that place names should be in Welsh but signs giving information in both is just confusing

    Simply ....... English is by far the dominant language in Wales, adding Welsh to road signs is potentially dangerous to non speakers - not just the English, but all visitors .........as said ..........PC gone mad




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    Same with the bloody French, Germans, Italians and every body in Europe don't they know the dominate language is English, what the world coming to. Get over it, it's their country and it's not the end of the world. (y)
     
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    The French, Germans and Italians do not speak English as their first language......................

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    But it's their country, they can do what they like.
     
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    Basher, as a 'proud' Welshman (keep a hand on your wallet). I could not agree more, but are you aware that all bills, documents (V5 for instance) also have to be in Welsh and English. Cost to business is high and to the government (taxpayers) it must be astronomical. When a V5 or water bill arrives at our house there's two posties to carry the buggers:). Absolute stupidity at great cost and despite the 'austerity' measures of the last few years not one politician in Cardiff (yes we have another layer of politicos here too, though they have done some good things for Wales to the detriment of the English Taxpayers who subsidise us!)has ever raised the matter of the savings that might be made if bi-lingulism was stopped in it's tracks. :(
     
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    No, we can't actually because a tiny coterie of PC warriors decide that millions of taxpayers money should be wasted on bilingualism. :mad:
     
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    That's the same the world over, if they didn't spend (waste) the money on this it would be something else, can't see why you get up set about Welsh road signs it's not as if you don't know there in both languages before you enter Wales.
     
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  8. Bertie Bassett

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    I am Welsh, I live in Wales. Wales economy is frankly in the sh!te and were it not for the English taxpayer the wheels would probably fall off. (Subsidy is about a third of that paid to Scotland). Spending money on bilingualism at a time of austerity is pathetically insular!:(
     
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    They've been using bilingual signs for over 30 years and their not going to change now, if you want to pick a fight make it something more worth while then road signs.
     
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    Waste of public funds.
    Totally uneccesary.
    Ask a guy where he comes from, he will answer "Cardiff", not whatever the Welsh for Cardiff is.

    Won't patronize the Welsh speakers by Googling it.
     
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    You don't read other peoples posts do you.
     
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    So waste is OK

    Where did I say I was upset ? - it was an observation

    Would tourists or visitors from the rest of the world know that the Welsh had a different language and that signs would be in Welsh ?

    Road signs are supposed to help not confuse


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  13. Carol

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    I am Welsh I live in Wales, I don't speak Welsh, but I do respect that the Welsh Speaking community and there are a lot in Wales still where the main language spoken is Welsh, should have the road signs in there own language


    On the question of duplicate forms sent out in Wales I find that a telephone call to whichever company reaypuesting only English Forms works well.
     
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    There is much in what you say Carol, however this is a time of austerity and the Welsh NHS is creaking as a quick peek at any local paper will support. Further, since my great uncle from Beaumaris passed away I know no one whose first language is Welsh.
     
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    Although most of them speak English more correctly than wot we do
     
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    After my trip to Cardiff two weeks ago, I was gonna start a 'Room 101' thread and suggest abolishing Welsh road signs. Someone else started a thread about Banning things and Welsh road signs was in the top 10 which I happily signed up to. What an absolute crock of $h1t paying out taxpayers money to confuse innocent travellers for what end ?
    ps I have absolutely nothing against Welsh people, all the ones I met around Tenby and Cardiff were spot on.
     
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    Interestingly, I have family still in Wales and a couple of them are in nursing homes. Anyway in one of the nursing homes, where they deal with advanced dementure there are a couple of people who now only understand or speak welsh, where they used to converse in English. I always struggled with Welsh as a second language and found it more complicated. just odd that damaged brains seem to retain it better than English
     
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  18. Carol

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    Bertie the signs are already in place so the cost would be in removing them, and I agree the NHS is creaking, but after my fall in Southport I got home and seen my Doctor the same day. On Friday we had a phone call Eds brother was quite ill in the evening the locum Doctor called, gave us a letter Brother in law was in hospital same night, so it's not quite as bad as you read in the papers.

    Go 10 miles from here to Wrexham in a lot of the shops conversation is in Welsh, my daughter works in a school near Corwen, again Welsh is spoken , in every day life. I don't say that English is not widely spoken, but it is Wales and as such Wales should be allowed to keep there language where wanted.
     
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    Despite my earlier posts I can't argue with any of that Carol!(y)
     
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    The thing is they are not there to confuse innocent travellers they are there because it's Wales and when you travel into other countries I know it's inconvienent but France / Germany/ Spain don't change there road signs to English and I believe we pay Taxes to the EU as well.
     
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