water heater

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  1. mrsrogers

    mrsrogers Read Only Funster

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    We are hoping to buy our first (and last) motorhome on Wednesday 6th Feb, we are pensioners from South Wales, we've looked at loads of motorhomes during the past few months and traveled far and wide to see them, not all of them were as advertised, nevertheless we still believe our "Mimsey" is out there. The van we are going to hopefully purchase on Wednesday is a 1999 Ford Herald Squire, the photos and write up sound exactly what we want except the owner told us the water heater has been removed because it was leaking, how worried should we be?, the drive alone is going to cost us nearly £100 just to view the van, is it worth going?.
    Your expertise will be very welcome and may save us our life savings, the price we agreed to pay the private seller is £10,500, she has assured us the damage has been repaired but we are concerned about the cost of replacing the water heater.
    Look forward to your reply
     
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    Hl and welcome to the fun.

    please be aware a new water heater will cost several hundred pounds to replace plus labour costs.

    if you are on a budget this will be a big lump of money and no telling what else has been done and will need repairing/replacing to get the boiler working.
    it really isnt an option not to have hot water even if you only use campsites.

    I would hang on to your money until another van comes on the market.
    as you say, you will only buy once so you need the right van from the start.

    good luck :thumb:
     
  3. Terry

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    Hi I am not going to say it's a bargain :BigGrin: but the water heater will cost you around 400 to 500 quid plus fitting :Eeek: so bare this in mind :thumb: If you are paying £100 to go view you need to check everything :thumb:make up beds check all blinds, heater, etc etc, look on here for motorhome checlist and check everything on it ticking as you go :thumb:
    Terry
     
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    Checklist :Wink:print and tick off where applicable

    Collection / Inspection Tick Remark
    1 Check exterior, inc roof, for damage / poor workmanship * *
    1.1 Check for scuffs, cracks, scratches, transfers
    1.2 External fitments – aerial, roof rack and ladder
    1.3 Check all windows carefully for scratches

    2 External check: * *
    2.1 N/S front tyre size/type / wheel trim tight. Pressure * *
    2.2 Side repeater indicators fitted. * *
    2.3 High level light fitted. * *
    2.4 Passenger's door closure and locking * *
    2.5 Passenger's door security. * *
    2.6 Fridge vents fitted and undamaged. * *
    2.7 Fridge vent winter covers. * *
    2.8 External light fitted. * *
    2.9 Habitation door closure and locking. * *
    2.10 Canopy fitted. * *
    2.10.1 Demonstrate canopy operation. * *
    2.10.2 Check canopy size & colour. * *
    2.10.3 Check support arm foot brackets fitted. * *
    2.10.4 Check support arms engage brackets. * *
    2.10.5 Check canopy locked shut. * *
    2.10.6 Winding arm and stowage place
    2.10.7 Pay attention to quality of fitting
    2.11 Electrical socket, lid and connection. Is there a hook up lead? * *
    2.12 N/S rear tyres size/type / wheel trim tight. Pressure * *
    2.13 Toilet cassette trap and lock. * *
    2.13.1 Toilet cassette fitted. * *
    2.13.2 Remove / inspect cassette. * *
    2.13.3 Are toilet chemicals included
    2.14 High level light fitted. * *
    2.15 Rear lights condition / fog lights modified. * *
    2.16 N/S steady. * *
    2.17 Rear bumper damage / numberplate fitted. * *
    2.18 Cycle rack.and fittings * *
    2.19 Roof rack and ladder. * *
    2.20 Spare wheel fitted – mini pump and sealant * *
    2.21 O/S steady. * *
    2.22 High level light fitted. * *
    2.23 Grey tank waste valve damage/operation. * *
    2.24 Boot trap and lock. * *
    2.24.1 Heater installation / electric element. * *
    2.24.2 Automatic drain valve & shutoffs * *
    2.24.3 Battery installations * *
    2.24.4 Cycle rack fitting. * *
    2.25 O/S rear tyre size/type / wheel trim tight. Pressure * *
    2.26 Gas bottle trap and lock. * *
    2.26.1 Gas bottle fitted? * *
    2.26.2 Gas cock open? * *
    2.27 Heater flue + winter cover. * *
    2.28 Water filler cap lockable. Check keys * *
    2.29 High level light fitted. * *
    2.30 Fuel tank cap fitted/lockable. Check keys * *
    2.31 Driver's door closure and locking. * *
    2.32 Driver's door security. * *
    2.33 Side repeater indicator fitted. * *
    2.34 O/S front tyre size/type / wheel trim tight. Pressure * *
    2.35 Front bumper painted. * *
    2.36 Front bumper damage / numberplate fitted. * *
    2.37 Headlights condition & dipping direction * *
    2.38 Windscreen condition. Windscreen trim * *
    2.39 Underbonnet checks – oil, water, washer fluid, brake fluid
    2.40 Garage – locks, shelving, lights, tie down rails
    2.41 4 bike rack – fitting & operation
    2.42 Lockers – locks and contents
    2.43 Tool kit – jack, handle, locking nuts
    2.44 Step operation
    2.45 Tax disc in place – 12 months

    3 Check base vehicle:
    3.1 VIN as supplied for insurance * *
    3.2 Operation of lights: * *
    3.2.1 Side lights. * *
    3.2.2 Headlamps dip. * *
    3.2.3 Headlamps main. * *
    3.2.4 Left indicators and repeaters. * *
    3.2.5 Right indicators and repeaters. * *
    3.2.6 Tail lights. * *
    3.2.7 Brake lights. * *
    3.2.8 Rear fogs. * *
    3.2.9 Hazard. * *
    3.3 Exterior mirror operation * *
    3.3.1 Driver's * *
    3.3.2 Passenger's * *
    3.4 Cab window operation * *
    3.4.1 Driver's * *
    3.4.2 Blind * *
    3.4.3 Passenger's * *
    3.4.4 Blind * *
    3.4.5 Windscreen blind. * *
    3.5.1 Start: check instruments (fuel full?). * *
    3.5.2 Sat Nav/Radio/CD – operation and manuals/codes
    3.5.3 Reversing camera – operation and manuals
    3.5.4 Cruise control – fitting, operation & manual
    3.6 Seats operation: * *
    3.6.1 Driver's: fore/aft, height & rake. * *
    3.6.2 Passenger's: fore/aft. * *
    3.7 Fan operation. * *
    3.8 Heater operation. * *
    3.9 Two airbags. * *
    3.10 Seatbelts and pretensioners. * *
    3.11 A/C present and working. * *
    3.12 Tinted windows and screen. * *
    3.13 3.0 litre power version (VIN + handbook). * *
    3.14 Engine *chassis numbers (record). * *
    3.15 Alarm fitment, operation, cert & manuals inc codes
    3.16 Keys for all doors.

    4 Check conversion: * *
    4.1 Control panel live, mains connected? * *
    4.2 Pump on? * *
    4.3 Water in tank? * *
    4.4 All gas taps on? * *
    4.5 Heater on? * *
    4.6 Fridge on? * *

    5 Manuals: * *
    5.1 Fiat manual? * *
    5.2 Burstner manual? * *
    5.3 Fridge manual? * *
    5.4 Hob, extractor, oven manuals & warranties * *
    5.5 Pump manual? * *
    5.6 TV/DVD manual & warranty
    5.7 Body aircon manual & warranty
    5.8 Alarm manual & warranty

    6 Generally, internal: * *
    6.1 Upholstery for fabric as ordered. * *
    6.2 Drapes etc for presence/quality. * *
    6.3 Curtain around bed. * *
    6.4.1 Floor covering for faults/damage. * *
    6.4.2 Check connecting door operation and catches * *

    6.5 Wardrobe:
    6.5.1 Door. * *
    6.5.2 Latch. * *
    6.5.3 Hanging rail. * *
    6.5.4 Road heating. * *

    6.6 Washroom: * *
    6.6.1 Lighting. * *
    6.6.2 Rooflight: * *
    6.6.2.1 Operation, plus blocking catch. * *
    6.6.2.2 Blind. * *
    6.6.2.3 Flyscreen. * *
    6.6.3 Shower: * *
    6.6.3.1 Tray damage. * *
    6.6.3.2 Head fitted and secure. * *
    6.6.3.3 Cubicle cupboard and light. * *
    6.6.3.4 Works. * *
    6.6.3.5 Cubicle door and retention. * *
    6.6.4 Toilet: * *
    6.6.4.1 Damage. * *
    6.6.4.2 Swivel. * *
    6.6.4.3 Flush. * *
    6.6.4.4 Cover and seat. * *
    6.6.5 Heater outlet. * *
    6.6.6 Basin: * *
    6.6.6.1 Damage. * *
    6.6.6.2 Tap works, hot and cold. * *
    6.6.6.3 Drains OK. * *
    6.6.6.4 Leakage. * *
    6.6.6.5 Cupboard and doors. * *
    6.6.6.6 Latches. * *
    6.6.7 Washroom mirror. * *
    6.6.8 Washroom swivel mirror. * *
    6.6.9 Sliding storage rack: * *
    6.6.9.1 Action. * *
    6.6.9.2 Attachments. * *
    6.6.9.3 Latch. * *
    6.6.10 Door: * *
    6.6.10.1 Damage. * *
    6.6.10.2 Closure. * *
    *
    6.7 Rear Bed Area:
    6.7.1 Rear windows: * *
    6.7.1.1 Operation. * *
    6.7.1.2 Blinds. * *
    6.7.1.3 Flyscreens. * *
    6.7.2 Side window. * *
    6.7.2.1 Operation. * *
    6.7.2.2 Blinds. * *
    6.7.2.3 Flyscreens. * *
    6.7.3 Rooflight: * *
    6.7.3.1 Operation, plus blocking catch. * *
    6.7.3.2 Blind. * *
    6.7.3.3 Flyscreen. * *
    6.7.4 High level cupboards. * *
    6.7.4.1 Doors. * *
    6.7.4.2 Shelves. * *
    6.7.4.3 Latches. * *
    6.7.5 Lighting: * *
    6.7.5.1 Operation. * *
    6.7.6 Mattress. * *
    6.7.7 Slatted base. * *
    6.7.8 Prop?? * *
    6.7.9 Hinges. * *
    6.7.10 Heater installation / 240V water heater. * *
    6.7.11 Heating ducts. * *
    6.7.12 Waste pipe extension tube. * *
    6.7.13 Power sockets * *
    6.7.14 Steps and cupboard

    6.8 TV cupboard: * *
    6.8.1 Doors actions. * *
    6.8.2 Turntable. * *
    6.8.3 Power/aerial supplies. * *
    6.8.4 TV/DVD works well

    6.9 Cupboards/drawers unit. * *
    6.9.1 Doors. * *
    6.9.2 Latches. * *
    6.9.3 Drawers action. * *
    6.9.4 Drawers latches. * *
    6.9.5 Cutlery drawer liner. * *
    6.9.6 Gas cock installation. * *
    *
    6.10 Banquette:
    6.10.1 Rooflight: * *
    6.10.1.1 Operation, plus blocking catch. * *
    6.10.1.2 Blind. * *
    6.10.1.3 Flyscreen. * *
    6.10.2 Side window. * *
    6.10.2.1 Operation. * *
    6.10.2.2 Blinds. * *
    6.10.2.3 Flyscreens. * *
    6.10.3 Upholstery: * *
    6.10.3.1 Workmanship. * *
    6.10.3.2 Marks. * *
    6.10.3.3 Sofa recline operation
    6.10.3.4 Seatbelt fitments and operation
    6.10.4 Table & extension: * *
    6.10.4.1 Damage. * *
    6.10.4.2 Stability. * *
    6.10.4.3 Adjustment. * *
    6.10.4.4 Removal. * *
    6.10.4.5 Bar fixings. * *
    6.10.4.6 Conversion into bed method
    6.10.5 Seat bases: * *
    6.10.5.1 Water tank access lids installed. * *
    6.10.5.2 Water tank access lids open. * *
    6.10.5.3 Water tank installation. * *
    6.10.5.4 Cleaning cap, drain plug and chain. * *
    6.10.5.5 Filler pipe connections. * *
    6.10.5.6 Freedom from leaks. * *
    6.10.6 High level cupboards. * *
    6.10.6.1 Doors. * *
    6.10.6.2 Shelves. * *
    6.10.6.3 Latches. * *
    6.10.6.4 Speakers and wiring. * *
    6.10.7 Lighting under cupboards: * *
    6.10.7.1 Correct items fitted. * *
    6.10.7.2 Operation. * *
    6.10.8 Main light: * *
    6.10.8.1 Changed. * *
    6.10.8.2 Operating. * *

    6.11 Cab:
    6.11.1 Seat swivels. *
    6.11.1.1 Driver's * *
    6.11.1.2 Passenger's * *
    6.11.2 Seat upholstery workmanship / marks * *
    6.11.2.1 Driver's * *
    6.11.2.2 Passenger's * *
    6.11.3 High level cupboards. * *
    6.11.3.1 Doors. * *
    6.11.3.2 Latches. * *
    *
    6.12 Kitchen:
    6.12.1 Side window. *
    6.12.1.1 Operation. * *
    6.12.1.2 Blinds. * *
    6.12.1.3 Flyscreens. * *
    6.12.2 High level cupboards. * *
    6.12.2.1 Doors. * *
    6.12.2.2 Shelves. * *
    6.12.2.3 Latches. * *
    6.12.3 Lighting under cupboard: * *
    6.12.3.1 Operating. * *
    6.12.4 Sockets. * *
    6.12.5 Low level cupboard. * *
    6.12.5.1 Door. * *
    6.12.5.2 Shelf. * *
    6.12.5.3 Latch. * *
    6.12.6 Fridge: * *
    6.12.6.1 Damage. * *
    6.12.6.2 Shelves. * *
    6.12.6.3 Egg container. * *
    6.12.6.4 Bottom bin/s. * *
    6.12.6.5 Light. * *
    6.12.6.6 Gas. * *
    6.12.6.7 12V. * *
    6.12.6.8 240V. * *
    6.12.7 Hob & oven: * *
    6.12.7.1 Lids & doors open / stays open. * *
    6.12.7.2 All burners light. * *
    6.12.7.3 Lid closes / stays closed. * *
    6.12.7.4 Taps operate correctly. * *
    6.12.7.5 Chips / damage. * *
    6.12.7.6 Grill pan
    6.12.8 Sink: * *
    6.12.8.1 Chips / damage. * *
    6.12.8.2 Tap works, hot and cold. * *
    6.12.8.3 Drains OK. * *
    6.12.8.4 Leakage. * *
    6.12.8.5 Chopping board. * *

    6.13 Overcab Bed
    6.13.1 Mattress, ladder, lift and catches to secure
    6.13.2 Window & Heiki operation

    6.14 Entrance: *
    6.14.1 Control panel: *
    6.14.1.1 Operation. * *
    6.14.1.2 Damage. * *
    6.14.1.3 Workmanship. * *
    6.14.2 Hooks/hangers. * *
    6.14.3 Shoe horn. * *
    6.14.4 Door mat. * *
    6.14.5 Door liner condition. * *
    6.14.6 Lights switch. * *
    6.14.7 Heating stat and control * *
    6.14.8 Electric water heating control. * *
    6.14.9 Locking. * *
    6.14.10 Display cabinet – check glass, shelves, catches

    terry
     
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    Bloody Hell:Eeek:
     
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  7. Terry

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    :BigGrin: I used to have it as an attachment but it won't do it now :Wink:
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