Vehicle tax renewal confusion ..... (1 Viewer)

[Scotties]

Hi, the over 3.5t tax is not bad at £165 but what does the confusing phrase on the V11 form mean?

'Goods vehicle certificate required now if vehicle carrying goods/burden not needed by the user for accommodation purposes on the vehicle'

I know the MHF oracle will explain,

Thanks in advance, Richard

 

[Wildman]

what it means is if you carry anything that is not used inside the motorhome it effectively ceases to be a private heavy goods and becomes a heavy goods vehicle. You will then need the appropriate HGV licence. Automatic MOT fail if you have bikes, boats, tools etc in a garage.

 

[Scotties]

Er .....

Er, theat must mean almost ALL motorhomers

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[UKMotorhomes]

When I asked VOSA about this they told me that it was up to the motorhome owner to declare if anything was carried which was not needed for the purpose of residence in the vehicle, when presenting the vehicle for an MOT test.

They are not out to catch those who carry stuff which they use as part of their normal leisure use of the motorhome. They want to catch those who effectively use their motorhomes commercially, such as motorhome show traders, race teams, etc. That sort of usage requires compliance with goods vehicle regulations.

We have a Mercedes 7.5T van conversion, it's always been accepted for a Class 4 MOT, no MOT tester has ever questioned whether we use it commercially, or even looked in any of the lockers. The only time this has been checked is when we had to present it for inspection after we imported it, to get it registered.

Andy

 

[Scotties]

Thanks Andy, a breath of fresh air with a common sense view,

Richard

 

[Jaws]

How the hell would you know what common sense is ??

Ahh.. got it.. you read it out to Holly didn't you !

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[Scotties]

Hey, the hard work we put in to keep the world thinking you are 'sane'

 

[Jaws]

To which there can only response ....................................................

Errrr Wibble ??

 

[PhilandMena]

Hi, the over 3.5t tax is not bad at £165 but what does the confusing phrase on the V11 form mean?

'Goods vehicle certificate required now if vehicle carrying goods/burden not needed by the user for accommodation purposes on the vehicle'

I know the MHF oracle will explain,

Thanks in advance, Richard

I have a new motorhome (April2011) which is classed at 3.3t yet the road tax is £220.00. Do you know something i dont!

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[Jaws]

Yup, your van is not heavy enough.. simples

Over 3.5t and it becomes a private hgv.. Somewhat cheaper to tax !

 

[slobadoberbob]

That is why RV owners smile more

That is why RV owners smile more.. we only pay £165 road tax:shout::shout::shout:

Bob

 

[pappajohn]

Yup, your van is not heavy enough.. simples

Over 3.5t and it becomes a private hgv.. Somewhat cheaper to tax !

to elaborate on john's reply....

up to 3500kg is classed (and taxed) as a car (private light goods) and as such is taxed at the current rate taking into account all the associated drivel about age, engine size, emissions etc

over 3500kg is classed as a private heavy goods vehicle with a blanket tax rate of £165 regardless of engine size, age etc

mines 7500kg with a 6.8 ltr petrol engine but still £165.

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[dna]

and as it is under 3.5 tonnes it gets covered by the same speed limit / motorway lane laws as a car (I believe!). 70mph in lane 3 is legal.

 

[pappajohn]

and as it is under 3.5 tonnes it gets covered by the same speed limit / motorway lane laws as a car (I believe!). 70mph in lane 3 is legal.

at 8 mpg @ 55 mph i cant afford to do 70mph in any lane oh:

 

[UKMotorhomes]

and as it is under 3.5 tonnes it gets covered by the same speed limit / motorway lane laws as a car (I believe!). 70mph in lane 3 is legal.

The speed limit for motorhomes is determined by the unladen weight, if the ULW is over 3050kg you are limited to 50mph on single carriageway roads and 60mph on dual carriageways. The normal 70mph limit applies on motorways.

More here: http://www.ukmotorhomes.net/motorhome-speed-limits.shtml

Andy

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[UKMotorhomes]

The speed limit for motorhomes is determined by the unladen weight, if the ULW is over 3050kg you are limited to 50mph on single carriageway roads and 60mph on dual carriageways. The normal 70mph limit applies on motorways.

More here: http://www.ukmotorhomes.net/motorhome-speed-limits.shtml

Should say that this only applies in the UK, in the rest of Europe, as far as I know, speed limits are based on gross weight.

Andy