Vehicle battery

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  1. benellioldman1

    benellioldman1 Funster

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    HI I am new to Motorhoming. Can I charge the Motorhome vehicle battery with a charger while it is connected to the van electrics (ref possible ECU damage etc) and if so can I use the old type of battery charger ie not the modern pulsing type.
    Thanks Steve
     
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    I use a Lidl one when in her winter quarters no problems up to now. I am fairly sure yours would be ok too. They do advise to disconnect the negative lead from the chassis to save any problems. A techie should be along soon to explain why. :)
     
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    Hi Steve,
    in the early days of out motorhome ownership I had a totally duff cab battery for about a month.. It was some weird size and rather than fit something non original I ordered the exact one from our local outlet.
    Trouble was, we were about to leave for a three week jaunt

    I used a really old 6 amp battery charger that was originally used to keep the Ark batteries topped up !! ( And yes, still got it and still use it ! )
    All I did was extend the wires a bit so I could plug the thing in to a socket in the motorhome and dangle the wires out of the window and under the bonnet..
    Kept us going no problem..

    Since then I fit a split charger box in every van we have.. That way at least the solar panels stick a bit in to the cab battery when it ( the split charger ) detects the hab batteries are fully charged :)
     
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    Car or Motorhome.. makes no odds.. most vehicle manufacturers recommend you disconnect the engine battery before connecting a charger, there is a very small risk you could fry the ECU ..

    The Lidl / Aldi smart chargers are very good, I've used mine to charge my Honda CRV and never disconnected the battery ... but wouldn't risk a 'bog standard' bench charger.

    The down side is when you disconnect the battery you will need the code for the radio and some ECUs default back to factory settings.. the one on my Fiat Seicento did just that when I fitted a new battery .. but it soon 'learned' again.

    My advice.. don't risk using a bog standard charger without disconnecting the battery earth lead ..
     
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    It has been pretty much the norm in the trade for as long as I can remember..
    I even use my 50 amp charger ( tis on wheels as a little large ! ) straight on to battery terminals in an emergency and never yet had a problem and never disconnect a terminal..
    Realistically it is no different to using one of the better starter packs
     
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    Hi Steve,

    If you have EHU to operate a bench type battery charger, could you not just plug the MH in, and let the 3/4 x stage on board charger do the job for you? If a Zig unit, you may have to alter the switch settings for "cab battery"

    HTH,

    Jock.
     
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    Jaws is correct.. it has been trade practice, and no doubt thousands of others have charged without disconnecting the neg lead, with no ill effects..

    However.. I prefer to play it safe.. an ECU is loadsa money, it takes less than a minute to pull of the neg cable..

    When in doubt, read the owners manual .. all give similar advice..

    Fiat Ducato

    Charge the
    battery as follows:
    ❒ disconnect battery negative terminal;
    ❒ connect the charger cables to the battery
    terminals, observing the poles;
    ❒ turn on the charger;
    ❒ when you have finished, turn the
    charger off before disconnecting the
    battery;
    ❒ reconnect the terminal to the battery
    negative pole.
     
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    I plan to fit a second split charge relay to top off me vehicle battery from the built in charger when on mains. I also intend to fit a small solar panel specifically to keep it topped up when parked off the mains.. in both cases the battery will stay connected to the vehicle at all times.
     
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