URGENT No Power - can you help please?

Discussion in 'The Beginner' started by GrandmaLiz, Apr 3, 2009.

  1. GrandmaLiz

    GrandmaLiz Read Only Funster

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2009
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hi,

    I tried to start the engine this morning but nothing happened - can anyone suggest what I could look at? Is there anything other than a flat battery which could cause this to happen? Thanks, GrandmaLiz:cry:
     
  2. Diabalo

    Diabalo Funster

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2007
    Messages:
    1,966
    Likes Received:
    379
    Location:
    Rochester
    Imobaliser maybe, lock the vehicle then unlock and have another go
     
  3. dutchy

    dutchy Deleted User

    no power

    How long has the m/home been idle?
     
  4. GrandmaLiz

    GrandmaLiz Read Only Funster

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2009
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hi Dane & Dutchy, Thanks for replying, I only bought it at the beginning of March - it had sat on the dealer's forecourt for some months but seemed to start OK on the test drive. After purchasing it, I drove home (about 150 miles over two days) with no problem. Since then, it's been stationery for about 2 weeks - I made sure I turned the immobiliser and alarm off before trying the ignition - the key turns but nothing happens. Regards, GrandmaLiz:cry:
     
  5. dutchy

    dutchy Deleted User

    power

    any luck ?
     
  6. Caztur

    Caztur Funster

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2009
    Messages:
    335
    Likes Received:
    136
    Location:
    Shropshire
    I suspect the battery has gone flat, my Autoquest used to do that if I left it standing for more than a week. Even though the alarm didn't work it drained the battery. I would charge the battery up and see if that works. Solved it by wiring in a charger that could be switched to charge either leisure or van battery as needed from EHU, and if I wasn't using it for a few days I connected the EHU.

    Last year one of my cars did it and I thought it was the battery so I charged it but still nothing so I rang RAC and it turned out to be a blown fuse.

    Are you in RAC/AA/Greenflag?
     
  7. GrandmaLiz

    GrandmaLiz Read Only Funster

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2009
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hi, No joy I'm afraid - the lights etc. are not working either so I suspect it's the battery. Being new to this, I really don't understand why this should happen - I had an 80watt solar panel fitted to keep the leisure battery charged and would have thought that after driving 150 miles the alternator should have charged the car battery adequately. I did run the water pump quite a bit yesterday on auxilliary power (which presumably is the leisure battery?) to flush the system with sterilizing solution and assumed tis would not drain the leisure battery and especially not the car battery. The only thing that has been running constantly since I bought it is thw alarm/immobiliser. What do you think? Regards, GrandmaLiz:cry:
     
  8. dutchy

    dutchy Deleted User

    power

    does any lights come on the dash when you turn the key?
     
  9. GJH

    GJH Funster Life Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2007
    Messages:
    27,228
    Likes Received:
    34,402
    Location:
    Acklam, Teesside, originally Glossop
    From your description it does seem to be the battery.

    Like Caztur had, we have an Autoquest. Alarm can drain the battery. Another culprit is the radio if only turned off at the ignition rather than positively using the on/off switch.

    Graham.
     
  10. GrandmaLiz

    GrandmaLiz Read Only Funster

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2009
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hi Caztur - I hadn't thought of a fuse blowing - I'm in the RAC so Iv'e called them out now. I will have to look at fitting a charger - naiively, I didn't think I would need one can any garage fit one or do I need to go to a motorhome dealer? How much can I expect to pay? Thanks, GrandmaLiz:cry:
     
  11. dutchy

    dutchy Deleted User

    power

    are you in any breakdown service?
     
  12. GrandmaLiz

    GrandmaLiz Read Only Funster

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2009
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hi Graham, I'm not sure about the radio, I did just turn it right down, not off but wouldn't that automatically switch off when the engine is switched off like it does in a car?
    Hi Dutchy - No lights 'glowing' on the dashboard when the key is turned.
    Thank you all for your help and support - it's really appreciated
    Regards, GrandmaLiz
     
  13. dutchy

    dutchy Deleted User

    power

    It could be any number of things

    Flat Battery
    Loose terminal connection
    Fuse
    Dry battery
     
  14. dutchy

    dutchy Deleted User

    power

    Ok
    please let us kniow what the outcome was
    and when its sorted
    you could fit a battery master from cak tanks arond £23 mark i did never looked back
     
  15. GrandmaLiz

    GrandmaLiz Read Only Funster

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2009
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hi everyone, thank you so much for helping - the RAC man has just been. As suspected it was a flat battery. He checked the alternator - that's OK and the battery itself is OK (+ leisure battery has full charge). Looks like I wil need to find out what has drained it so quickly and fit a charger.

    Regards, GrandmaLiz :thumb::Smile::thumb:
     
  16. dutchy

    dutchy Deleted User

    power

    Glad your sorted
    Dont take it for granted that the radio only works when ignition on, its not uncommon for people with campers to change the wiring so it can be used without ignition
    The Batterymaster is the way forward in my oppinion especially as you have a solar panel
     
  17. Caztur

    Caztur Funster

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2009
    Messages:
    335
    Likes Received:
    136
    Location:
    Shropshire
    Pleased to hear you've got it going.

    Any good auto electrician should be able to sort it out for you. My brother did mine for me.
     
  18. GJH

    GJH Funster Life Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2007
    Messages:
    27,228
    Likes Received:
    34,402
    Location:
    Acklam, Teesside, originally Glossop
    First of all, glad the RAC man sorted you out.

    When you turn off the radio by switching off the ignition it is like putting a mains appliance in standby - it's still drawing some power. To completely turn it off you need to use the switch. With a typical car it doesn't tend to matter as the vehicle is used often enough to replace any current drain but with a MH which is stood for quite a while the drain can build up.

    As Dutchy says, a Batterymaster or similar enables charging of the van battery via the leisure battery charging circuit. An alternative (not permanently fitted) is a portable smart charger like the Ctek 3600 or the much cheaper equivalents sold by Lidl and Aldi. I have a Tronic T4X as sold by Lidl which I plug in if necessary to give the van battery a boost.

    Graham
     
  19. eddievanbitz

    eddievanbitz Trader - Funster

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2007
    Messages:
    3,538
    Likes Received:
    10,988
    Location:
    Taunton Somerset
    I would bet that the battery is shot. The RAC man has told you the battery is ok, but you cannot test a flat battery (That's why he works for the RAC :Wink:)

    Take the van to a good Tyre and Battery company and any reputable business will test the battery FOC

    Charge the battery first though:Wink:
     
  20. scotjimland

    scotjimland Funster Life Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2007
    Messages:
    28,934
    Likes Received:
    25,574
    Location:
    .
    :Laughing::Laughing:... how true Eddie..
     
Loading...

Share This Page