Update TomTom maps or buy new satnav?

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  1. ojibway

    ojibway Funster

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    It's about time I updated the maps on my TomTom XXL which I haven't done for several years.
    Problem is, do I pay £45+ for an update or should I buy a new "other make" satnav for £34?

    I had been tempted to buy a new TomTom with lifetime updates but my XXL is perfectly good and they are pricey.
    I've looked at this one on Amazon:
    WOLFTEETH X7 7-inch Satelite Car GPS Navigation with Latest UK and Europe Maps and Free Lifetime Map Updates
    It looks OK to me.
    Have any of you funsters had this dilemma and what have you done??
    Mike:unsure::unsure:
     
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    I think it depends on the memory in what you have. The maps seem to be getting bigger.
    I've just replaced my one xl as it can't expand the memory, no sd card. Bought a new TomTom Start & by comparison it's rubbish.
    If you have a tablet have a look at CoPilot app, much better & cheaper.
    Barrie
     
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    GJH Funster Life Member

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    Given the recent discoveries regarding Nozatec and similar offerings (see here) it appears that all the cheap stuff probably uses pirate software and can not, therefore, be recommended any longer.

    I will stick with the Garmin Camper 760 we got in Aldi last year.
     
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  4. Nigel&Debbie

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    Google gpsunderground or gpspower and within 1 hour you will have downloaded and installed latest maps free of charge ( good tutorials on both sites).
     
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  5. Nigel&Debbie

    Nigel&Debbie Read Only Funster

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    Tomtom will only support the 'lifetime updates' for as long as THEY deem the unit as being CURRENT. Check the small print. It is similar to Microsoft and their operating systems ie you can still use Vista/Millenium/XP but no longer supported hence no free updates
     
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    I use Navmii on my andriod phone. It's a free add with free map downloads. There are in-app purchases to improve the voice guidance and remove the ads if you like the app. Included is also traffic information when you have a data connection.(y)
     
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  7. Mack100

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    I'm interested to know why you feel your TomTom Start is rubbish. Which model did you buy?
     
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    I was in the same position.. my ageing TT One XL was needing new maps.. so thought I'd save some cash and buy a Cheapo Chinese jobbie.. it was rubbish... dull screen, poor touch sensitivity... so sent it back and got a full refund..

    Also tried several phone and tablet systems, Co-Pilot etc.. they work ok and are good as a back-up.. but I much prefer a dedicated unit..

    I looked at both TT and Garmin.. but at that time, TT did NOT permit adding third party POIs.. that was a deal breaker..

    Bite the bullet , buy a new Garmin.. there is much more to a sat nav than price..
    is the screen bright and responsive.. how easy is it to load third party POIs, is there a route planner .. like Garmin's Base Camp.. map updates for life , and so much more..

    "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

    buy cheap.. you get cheap
     
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    Still using my Tom Tom Live 825, it's never let me down. (y)
     
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  10. Dave and Ginny

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    Best thing I ever did was buy a Garmin and follow @scotjimland advice on using Basecamp to plan my routes myself for the satnav to follow. You don't need an expensive Garmin, just one that has the 'app' addition.
     
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  11. ojibway

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    Thanks everyone for the good responses.

    I will have a look at the gpsunderground as suggested by Nigel&Debbie and at the Garmin too.

    I'm not too reliant on satnavs so don't usually worry if they are a bit out-of-date but I do like 'gadgets':whistle: and love having all the aires on the satnav.

    Last November the TomTom led us down a cul-de-sac in Brugges when heading for the aire. Had to use logic to find my way!:cool:
     
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    If you have an android or apple device you can get the tomtom app. It's very good.
     
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    Hi.
    Did anybody listen to "Pirate Radio ?". I will stick by my Nozi-whatsit,until the screen goes blank,does all i need it to,that is,get me from A-B. I won't tell you about the time in Coimbra,when it wanted to take me up a near impossible back alley,third time it brought me back to it,thought here goes and up i went..... Came out by the side of the Chinese restaurant we were all meeting at.
    Tea Bag.
    PS. For a laugh. "I the humble Mr Bellows,have lived like a Pirate and will die like a Pirate..Go on Captain,do 'em the dirty."
    From the fim. The Crimson Pirate.
     
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    Using the Garmin Basecamp, your able to plan a route to or via an aire and even view the aire or route to it by switching to Google Earth view or even Streetview to take a look. I have often found that the grid ref for an aire is not quite right, using Basecamp allows you to view and correct it.
    If you like gadgets you will love it!
     
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    Hi Ojibway. If you have an I-Pad you can get the Apple App for TomTom as Jezport said and it will then stand very nicely on top of the dash in its case, making it very easy to see.
    We are very happy with ours..
     
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    There have been some significant changes on the Tomtom units over the last couple of years such that the latest Go units like our GO5000 bears no resemblance to the old units. Also whilst they still cannot do some things that the old units like calculate a route with a set speed limit for the vehicle they can now do more than the old units could.

    The way you operate them is totally different with different icons and interface which takes getting used to and with recent updates you can now do much more on them than you could when they first came out.

    We can now use a Tomtom software on a PC, Tablet or Smart phone to calculate a route and when we turn our GO5000 on it loads the route and is ready to go. You can also ask it to calculate some alternative routes for you to consider.

    You can now add POI files however at the moment you cannot see them on the unit as you travel. You cannot create a POI category or add a place as a POI to a category on the units. You have to do this on 3rd Party software at the moment and hopefully the facility will be added.

    You can create routes on the units or on a PC or Tablet and send them to the unit for use later. You can also create routes and POI files in 3rd party software like "Tyre" or POIedit and send them to the unit. So they have introduced a Basecamp facility. In both instances you can have lots of waypoints on the route and whenever you select a particular route the unit calculates the way to the start from wherever you are.

    If you have loaded a route which includes toll roads then toll booth icons appear on the route with the distance to the booth and if you want you can just tap the icon and the unit will recalculate a route avoiding that section of Toll Road.

    The unit will advise you of quicker alternatives if there are any traffic problems and all you need to do is decide at the suggested turn off whether to take it or not without touching the unit.

    The GO5000/6000 and the latest GO5100/6100 units incorporate a Sim which means that whenever you are travelling throughout Europe the units are constantly checking Traffic and advising you accordingly and there is no charge for the data this is using. We have found Tomtoms traffic to be very good. Also when you have sent POI and Route files to your unit from a PC ot Tablet the transfer takes place when you turn the unit on and it has logged into its account using the inbuilt Sim, again at no cost for the data transfer even when abroad.

    In the event you have to do a total reset when a Unit logs itself back into its Tomtom account the POI files and 3rd Party created routes and favourites, called My Places now, are restored to the unit using the inbuilt Sim. They are working on it being able to restore Routes created in their own software.

    One thing to be aware of is that on these newer units the size of the Map files has increased tremendously such that Western Europe is about 6.5GB and so if your broadband is not very good it can be a very long time to manage updates. This problem can occur on other makes of GPS units as their files can also be very large. Also the maps are getting bigger so quickly that the units already need an additional memory cards inserted to cope.

    The latest units are expensive but you can have World Maps with 4 free updates a year as well as free Speed Cameras and Traffic for the region the unit is bought in. Ie if you buy it in Europe then whilst you can have world maps only Europe is covered for the free speed camera and traffic.
     
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    Exactly, have look at the new Garmins that come out at the end of March, they offer eve more I will be goingg for the Garmin Drivesmart 50. Its worth looking at their website and you do get what you pay for.
     
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  19. John Laidler

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    Why bother to update the maps? I had the latest maps on mine but still found new roads in Spain which weren't known about to Messrs Garmin.

    Just keep an eye on the road signs, if they've built a new motorway you'll notice it and if not you'll stay on the old road which might be better and more scenic!
     
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    On the subject of being directed down unsuitable "roads" we avoid any "unnamed road" unless we know the area and generally follow the town signs to aires or campsites.
    We had an episode when we were tugging when we followed the satnag and ignored the road signs when getting to a site. Finished up getting jammed between cars in a too narrow road. Fortunately the locals turned out and moved their cars after climbing in through sunroofs.
    They actually thought it was hilarious and even gave us a cold beer and freshly made buns. I'll never ignore a direction sign again!
     
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