Umwelt Zones reminder

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  1. Don Madge

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    From 1 January 2008 a total of 33 German cities will require all motorists to purchase a "Pollution Badge" in the form of a windscreen sticker in order to enter city centre ‘Umwelt Zones’ (green zones).

    The participating cities are: Augsburg, Berlin, Braunschweig, Köln (Cologne), Darmstadt, Dresden, Düsseldorf, Essen, Frankfurt am Main, Hannover, Heidelberg, Islfeld, Karlsruhe, Kassel, Leipzig, Leonburg, Ludwigsburg, Madgeburg, Mannheim, Mühlacker, München (Munich), Neu-Ulm, Nürnberg (Nuremberg), Pforzheim, Pleidelsheim, Regensburg, Reutlingen, Ruhr Area, Schwäbish-Gmund, Stuttgart, Tübingen and Ulm.

    You must present your vehicle registration document at Pollution Badge (Umwelt Plakette) sales outlets, including vehicle repair centres, car dealers, MOT (Tüv) stations and vehicle licensing offices, and you will be issued with a badge, coloured (Red/Yellow/Green) according to your vehicle’s Euro emission rating.

    The cost of the badge is understood to be between €5 and €10 and, once issued, covers you throughout Germany for the life of your vehicle. Failure to display a badge could incur a fine of €40. Enforcement will be managed by the police, local authorities and traffic wardens.

    This website gives a lot of information (in German): http://www.umwelt-plakette.de
    Also http://www.umwelt-plakette.de/umwel...o Englisch.pdf?SID=q0j3lb93ftbufcg576a3aq6914

    Safe travelling

    Don
     
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    cheers Don,
    top left hand corner you will find the language options. just click the union flag and hey-presto, english.:Laughing:

    john.


    sorry Don, you must have missed this bit.
     
  3. Don Madge

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    John,

    I did not miss it:Smile: most of the site does not translate especially the info on the towns/cities.

    Don
     
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    Hi Don that's all very strange, on the first site you can have a handwritten for €29.90 or a typed one for €39.90, so how come the second site can do them for €5? is there a fiddle going on?

    This is all supposed to be official so shouldn't the price be the same? Good news is after 93 all petrol are class 4 (green) so all us petrol RV guys should be ok.

    Olley
     
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    Hi Olley,

    It seems it's a free for all. :Eeek:

    There's a couple of people trying the €5 one so I'll wait to see what happens.

    Don
     
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    The 5€ just seems to be for Koln (Cologne) whereas the 29.90€ is for all towns/cities mentioned on that umwelt site.

    For both sites we have to provide copies of our registration doccument ( more chance for id theft?)

    Also it seems for whatever reason that they are not able to issue you with a sticker you still pay 15€!!!
     
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    Rita,

    The €5 one covers your vehicle for all the Umwelt zones in Germany.

    I think I'll wait and get mine the next time in Germany.

    Don
     
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    I have obviously misunderstood their web sites :Blush: So what is the 29.90€ one for then? and their statement re 15€ payable if they are unable to send you a badge/sticker?
     
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    Rita,

    The €5 and the €29.99 stickers are exactly the same as far as I can make out.

    When the original info was released last year it was stated the stickers would/could cost between €5 and €40.

    As always it pays to shop around.

    Don
     
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    the 5euro (why dont i have a euro key?) price is if bought localy in germany, the 29.90 one is for non german vehicles, but only if you buy a permit in your own country, in advance of your visit, via the snailmail/bundespost

    if you buy a permit this way and, upon them doing checks with manufacturers data ect, your vehicle cant meet the emmisions ratings required (perhaps some old trannys or sherpa's ect) then they will refund 14.90 and the other 15euro is an admin fee.

    buy it in germany and save 24.90euro. plus they'll tell you if you cant have one.:thumb:

    the way i see it is if you want to drive into the city, you need a permit(but check the list on next post of city's and the zone start dates first) otherwise you are wasting money as it only applies to cities. use the money saved to buy travel passes instead.:thumb:

    why can the germans charge as little as 5euro as a one-off fee but in ripoff britain it's upto £100 a day in the LEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:Angry:

    john.
     
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    Where and when will green zones in Germany come into
    effect?

    Currently the status of planning is the following:

    01.01.2008 Berlin, Hannover, Cologne (Köln)

    01.03.2008 Ilsfeld, Leonberg, Ludwigsburg, Mannheim, Schwäbisch-Gmünd, Stuttgart, Tübingen

    01.07.2008 Bochum

    01.10.2008 Munich (München)

    in 2008 (Date not yet set) Augsburg, Dortmund, Düsseldorf, Essen, Mühlacker, Pforzheim, Regensburg, Reutlingen,
    Frankfurt/Main

    01.01.2009 Nuremberg (Nürnberg), Herrenberg

    01.01.2010 Freiburg (Breisgau)

    in 2010
    Year not yet set Braunschweig, Darmstadt, Dresden, Heidelberg, Karlsruhe, Leipzig, Magdeburg, Neu-Ulm,
    Pleidelsheim, Ulm
     
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    If you guys are right whats all this about?:

    If you live abroad, you can order a sticker from us in writing. Just send an informal, written application including a copy of your vehicle documentation and a non-negotiable cheque or 5 Euro in cash to:

    Stadt Köln
    Kfz-Zulassungsstelle
    Max-Glomsda-Straße 4
    51105 Köln

    Thats seems to me to be saying I can buy in this country for €5.

    Alt GR key hold down then press 4, that should get you the €€€€€€ sign.>:)

    Olley
     
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    it sure does Olley, i think this is possibly just for koln as i dont know where you got this info.
    just went through the process of buying upto the last step and it says €29.90 for a hand righten version or €39.90 for a typed one and €15 fee if its not in one of the emmision bands.
    thanks for the tip on the € sign.

    john.
    john.
     
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    Thanks John,

    Think I will wait until in Germany.

    Generally I like to bus into a city if going rather than driving but I was just thinking of being prepared in case I strayed into a green zone and ended up with a fine.

    Certainly if they can do it at that price what is Mayor Livingstone playing at charging people £100 or even £200 in some cases per day!! If not Euro 3 or Euro 4 compliant (vehicle wise). as usual RIP OFF BRITAIN
     
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    It came from Dons post, the sites is here http://www.stadt-koeln.de/en/lowemissionzone/article/11609/index.html

    And a bit I should have added from the same site says:

    We will enter your car registration on the sticker. Please attach it to the interior windscreen on the right-hand (passenger) side. The stickers are valid throughout Germany.

    So as Don said they appear to be valid all over Germany, and for just €5. and that's for the life of the vehicle, so to my mind worth getting if you think you may be going to Germany in the next few years.

    I think the reason red kens system is so expensive is all the cameras that are being put up around London to police it. I believe even now the congestion charge system makes very little profit for London and I expect this will be the same. But no doubt the companies that are running it will make a tidy sum.

    Olley
     
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    Hi I have emailed Rt Hon Rosie Wintereton, Boris, London Transport and a lawyer

    My Question
    If everyone in the Europe is paying a one off fee for the lifetime of a vehicle then can Livingstone Legally charge £100 in and £100 out per day is this not a crime
     
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    hi mavis,
    im sure Mr livingstones answer will be...........
    'cos i can and you mugs will pay anyway 'cos you're all sheep...........:Angry:
    only in more political terms.

    john
     
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    it looks like you get plenty of warning if you get near a green zone.:thumb:
     
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    This very misleading. The German system is very simple. Provide details of your vehicle and the De authorities will provide, for a fee, a badge which denotes the class your van is in. If it's red you must not enter the controlled zones. If you do, or if you do not have a sticker you will be fined €40/day. The BADGE lasts for the life of the van. Therefore the effective charge is €40 per day.
     
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