Tyre Bulge

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  1. marcus153

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    hi all

    Picked up the Motorhome this morning from storage for another test night out. But noticed there was bulging from the front right tyre wall when I stopped at a service station to get fuel. As a newbie and a bit nervous of a blow out I called green flag to change the tyre for the spare. A bit of a wait at 3 hours but not a problem as was able to do some jobs on the MH while waiting. The tyres are actually 2007 so quite old so I plan to change all of them asap.

    The question is where's the best place to get this done? I imagine your local kwik fit is not an option so is a more specialist tyre fitter needed?

    Also is it naughty that a dealer sold the van with tyres at 8 years old?

    Thanks

    Marcus
     
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    Hi

    8 year old tyres are perfectly legal so dealers don't bother changing them as it would just add £600 to the price so then the customer might buy the one down the road because it's cheaper, without even looking at the tyres.

    Any tyre dealer with a decent trolley Jack will be able to fit new ones for you,make sure you get a load rated tyre to suit your axle weights.

    Martin
     
  3. JeanLuc

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    I would go back to the dealer and ask for a contribution to new tyres at least. Eight years is too old for tyres on a motorhome - certainly from a dealer. If you want any 'back-up', here is a reference from the Hymer manual:
    Tyres must not be older than 6 years as the material will become brittle over time. The four-digit DOT number on the tyre flank indicates the date of manufacture. The first two digits designate the week, the last two digits the year of manufacture. Example: 1503 week 15, year of manufacture 2003.

    I switched my last lot at 6 years old although there was tread left. Punctures on two of them prompted me to act!
    I go to a local private tyre fitter although the previous ones were fitted by KwikFit. Whatever you do, make sure the fitter does not try to jack-up the van at the rear using the centre-diff as a lift-point. It can bend the axle on a Sprinter.

    Are you actually in Oxford, or perhaps to the north? I tend to use these people in Banbury - I trust them to do a decent job (I had Conti Vanco Winter2 fitted last Autumn).
    http://edgwicktyres.co.uk/ Obviously no use to you if you are south of the city - there must be loads of other suitable fitters near you.
     
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    yes.. and no.. if they were ok when he sold the van.. and it had a new MOT .. naughty but not unusual.. dealers don't like spending cash on tyres.

    When I bought the Hymer the dealer made no mention of the fact that the tyres were eight years old... I checked the dates, then I mentioned "tyres", he said.. "no worries lots of thread" .. I said "yes.. but they are eight years old" .. "ohh he said.. no problem .. we will replace all four" and they did..

    To buy new tyres I would go to a local independent tyre fitter/dealer .. also check prices with a few places online so you know if you are getting a good deal or not.. when you get a quote for four make sure the price quoted includes ..

    1. New brass valves
    2. Balancing
    3.Disposal of old
     
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    Drop @Brian and Jo a PM/conversation.... members on here and see what he can do... he is the owner of a highly spoke of tyre distributer..

    I have had tyres from him in the past, and he will get them sent to a tyre fitter near you..(y)

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    Hi there Marcus,the first thing to understand is that ANY bulge in a tyre is dangerous.thre is a chance that the bulge could be age related but more likely to be an impact fracture caused by a kerb or pothole.but never the less at 8yrs old ,definately ready for changing.i don't usually get involved with tyre related threads because when you try to give advice you just get shot down by people saying what they want to hear.but if you do want to ask anything just call me on 07802 661334 and I will try and help you.
    Brian & Jo
     
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    when on a piste in morocco i got a bulge in a tyre .
    it had green oko in it . it stayed up.
    for three days it was a bulge . then a further two days it burst and was just a flap.
    we were way off road and i had been driving on it . through the desert tracks .
    on the sixth day we woke up and it had gone flat.
    the question was why had it done it then ?
    but just shows green slime oko didnt let it go down immediately .
    i wouldnt drive on the road with it . we were miles off road . only carried on to see how long it would last.
    we were driving over rocks etc , how we didnt get more damage to tyres was amazing .
     

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    That's great thanks, the MH is stored not far from Banbury so I will give them a try.
     
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    Wow that's what you call a bulge! Mine is very small in comparison! I feel a little inadequate now.....
     
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  10. marcus153

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    Thanks Brian and Jo.
     
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    Brian and Jo Funster Life Member

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    Call me with the size Marcus when they have given you a price and I will tell you if you are in the right ball park(y)
    Brian & Jo
     
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    i had never seen one like it either.
    i had put oko tyre sealant in before the trip as i was used to getting lots of thorns in the tyres in the desert. as we were miles off road i carried on carefully . it was just the outer skin . yet never felt it while driving . it was on the front. we did some really difficult pistes that year.
    my mate did two of his tyres on his ldv convoy . luckily we both had a few spare wheels and tyres with us . had to take a pic of it as its so funny.
    but old tyres are hopeless .
    mine werent old but driving over some of the tracks was just too much for them .
    as a matter of interest that was my old vw on 14inch wheels . since changing to the mitzy on 16inch more like truck tyres we dont seem to get the punctures the same or rip any . truck tyres are stronger built for sure .
    regular checks on tyres are definately worth doing . specialy on desert tracks . the one that gets many is stones stuck beteen the back twin wheels . can burst both if your unlucky.
    at least you found yours before you went too far. might be worth a good look at the rest.
     
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    Brian of b and Jo was very helpful when I asked him a question.
    I ended up having to get the tyres I wanted from mytyres after being bu**ered about by a local dealer but they were happy to fit them for me.
    Hth
     
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    Save your self some grief. Just google the tyre size (try asda tyres) and ask for a further discount when ringing around for prices, if asked always say you got a cheaper quote.

    Had a scare or two caused bulging tyres. Happy hunting!
     
  15. marcus153

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    I have had a quote at £55.90 plus VAT each corner fitted. make is Autogrip?

    he asked about load rating which I think is 110/112 but not 100 % sure just remember seeing it on the tyres?

    anyone with similar Hymer may be able to help?

    Any other recommendations would be helpful

    thanks

    MS
     
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    What's the best way to lift the rear up? Is there a dedicated lift point? Oh and what make tyres have you chosen Philip?
     
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    The Sprinter has jacking points at each side, both front and rear. At the rear, they are part of the forward spring mounting point.
    I have got Continental Vanco Winter2 tyres 225 70 R15 with load index 110/112. My Hymer is built on a Sprinter 316 chassis with GVW of 3,800 kg (single rear wheels).
     
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    Hi Philip

    Sorry for all the questions! Why have you chosen winters? And we're these fitted at Banbury? What sort of cost?

    Thanks

    Marcus
     
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    I spoke to the Continental technical department and they said that it would be fine to use winter tyres all year-round, particularly at the speeds and mileages that a motorhome typically experiences.
    Winter tyres give much better grip on muddy fields and, if travelling in some European countries, are mandatory between around October and March.
    The Conti Winter 2 tyres cost me about £135 each I think from Edgewick last autumn. I would not fit budget tyres on something the weight of a motorhome. I have only had Contis on mine although there have been good reports of Hankook as well which are not quite so expensive. For interest, I have never bothered with Camper tyres (marked CP on the side wall) although many Funsters use them. They have to be run at much higher pressures and Hymer did not fit them as original equipment on my Star-Line
     
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    @JeanLuc


    Philip

    I am getting the tyres changed on friday at Edgwxick and wanted to highlight the issue if the not lifting on the axle. Where are the lifting points located? hopefully they will know this but want to cover every avenue!!

    thanks

    Marcus
     
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