tugger needs advice on weight

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    Hi all CAN YOU HELP?
    we are away in our MH and friends have had their caravan stolen, they need some advice on towing weights their car is a ford focus 1.6 auto 2002 details in handbook are kerbweight 1189-1276 payload 339-426 permissible gross weight 1615. anyone know what is the max weight they can tow???
    thanks for any help
    chris
     
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    caravan club recommend no more than 85% of the cars max weight as a general guide and definately no more than the gross weight of the car. ie: the cars weight must always be equal to or greater than the trailer

    so a 1375kg (max weight) caravan is technically the max but there may be restrictions imposed by the car manufacturer.

    im surprised they dont give a train weight.
     
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    Hi Chris

    Assuming your friend has the relevant licence to tow something over ¾ton of caravan and the KERB weight of his car is 1276ibs - the Caravan Club advises that the caravan should not exceed 85% of the towing vehicle KERB weight.

    1276 divided by 100 - multiplied by 85 = 1084lbs

    I would suggest that you friend looks for something NO heavier than 1100lbs absolute maximum.

    From the Caravan Club Handbook 2009/2010, page 635: The actual laden weight of the Caravan should be kept as low as possible and should never normally exceed the KERB weight of the towing vehicle.
     
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    found this website which gives you all the info you need,

    there are manufacturers resrictions.

    study the lists carefully as there are year, model, body type, engine and how many doors to consider.

    could be anywhere between 800kg and 1200kg model dependant.

    FORD TOWING INFO
     
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    Good link, Pappajohn - well found!
     
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    Thanks John, very useful. I've been mulling over getting an old caravan to do up and one of the first questions would be the weight I could tow.

    Graham
     
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    My apologies swifty......i was working on the cars GROSS weight and as mo said it should be KERB weight.:Blush:

    but the link will make up for the mistake...:thumb::Wink:

    never normally, i thought that was a legal requirement.
     
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    If your vehicle handbook doesn't tell you the maximum weight of trailer you can tow,
    you can work it out by taking the GVW from the GTW.

    The GVW and GTW are written on your car's data plate.
    The trouble is, different manufacturers use different names for the same thing.

    If you take the second largest weight from the largest weight on that plate, that's the max you can tow.

    Failing that, ask you local Traffic Police.
    They have the data readily to hand, for obvious reasons.
    They always work by the manufacturer's statement on max towing weight.
     
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    Swifty, from punters answers to the same question, it looks like a Ford Focus can tow a maximum of 1200Kg.
    The handbook and/or the data plate are the best proof.

    This means that the caravan you tow must have a grow weight of 1200Kg or less.
    The caravan's gross weight must be shown on a data plate near the front of it's A-Frame.
    Unless the caravan is an anitque.
     
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    Recommended towing weights:-

    1100lbs and 1200kgs no much difference there then??????
     
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    :Rofl1::Rofl1:think moandick's still working in pounds, shillings and pence while the rest of us are decimal :Wink: of course, he means 1100kg:thumb::Rofl1:
     
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    Bring back hanging, that's what I say - all this messing about with proper Pounds, Shilling and Pence will end in tears! :Angry:
     
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    :Cool:Good information BUT remember the towed weight must include everything in the caravan including gas barrels clothes food awnings etc:Eeek:
     
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    yeah! ah miss ma LSD!
     
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    is that £.s.d. or Lysergic Acid Diethylamide :Blush::Rofl1:
     
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    Take yer pick!


    (Michael Miles)
     
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    Thanks ALL
    Chris
     
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    dont forget Monica as well...:Wink:

    Edit...
    Ooops......Monica Rose was Hughies bit on th......assistant
     
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    Trailer weight

    . . . towed weight must include everything in the caravan including gas barrels clothes food awnings etc. . .

    The trailer weight is what is written on the data plate as maximum gross weight.
    Or whatever words were flavour of the month for maximum gross weight when the plate was printed.
    It's owt to do with the kerb weight of the trailer.

    A Transit, with a max tow bar pull of 2000Kg, for instance, can't legally tow an empty 2.5 ton (2500Kg) gross weight trailer that actually weighs half a ton (500Kg).
     
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    (Quote) A Transit, with a max tow bar pull of 2000Kg, for instance, can't legally tow an empty 2.5 ton (2500Kg) gross weight trailer that actually weighs half a ton (500Kg).

    That is not what the DirectGov Rules state - assuming that you have the correct licence (the E 'towing' licence):
    • a vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.25 tonnes could be driven by the holder of a category B entitlement. This is because the MAM of the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes and also the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle
    Whereas
    • the same vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes when coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.5 tonnes would fall within category B+E. This is because although the combined weight of the vehicle and trailer is within the 3.5 tonnes MAM limit, the MAM of the trailer is more than the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle
    Anyway, this is all getting a bit silly now, the original poster asked for advice on towing weights and that question has been answered to his satisfaction.
     
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