Trike on tow

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  1. Peter & Elaine

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    image.jpg As promised pics
     
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    Trike pic 2

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    Trike pic3

    As promised pics of my lift and tow system for our rewaco hs4
    Trike as you can see front wheel drops in frame and locks trikes steering
    So all articulation is done though tow ball
    Braking and pulling is done though where frame attaches to trike bull bar so no pressure or steering though head stock

    Or do you have better idea I am always willing to listen
    And I sometimes take notice

    And there is a strap over front wheel not shown

    Thanks for looking peter
     

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    Isn't your road steep?

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    The roads ok it's my limited intelligence with a ipad that's to blame
    Besides its fun taking of vertical

    Just seen your previous occupation
    Is it legal in your opinion
     
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    Hope you don't think I'm being a smart a**e - just trying to help

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    In response to your question..............

    no comment

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    I expected the no comment bit I have a few mates who are in the force and 1 of them is in traffic none will make a positive yes or no it's a little Gray
    it's well within the un braked issue what splits opinion is it trailer or recovery
    And of course the old CE mark
    General consensus is I would proberbly get nicked then up to judge if I pleaded it

    Yes thanks for tipping photos I think it's a ipad thing works ok on PC (pun)
     
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    You are absolutely right. By the letter of the law, illegal as it has a braking system and therefore should be working.

    Yes, I guess well within the maximum unbraked trailer thing (750 kg) and therefore in the spirit of the law would be legal.

    On your side is the fact there are so few Roads Policing officers now that to find one with the time on their hands to put the paperwork in - now that would be unlucky.

    Also would the CPS want to prosecute? Probably not.

    Biggest danger would be VOSA slapping an immediate prohibition on you.

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    I have had many dealings with vosa in past with work and abnormal loads each area and officials have different interpretations
    it always ends in court found guilty then reversed on appeal
    We Can't win only lawyers win
     
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    if it had a braked hitch you just run the cable to pull on the rear brake pedal . easy to do and then its legal.
    definately not at the moment unless you drive very slow and pretend its a recovery.
     
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    I respect and fully understand your opinion
    but its all about CE markings and is it a trailer or recovery they are very different things in the eyes of the law
    If its a trailer I don't legally need it braked as it only weighs 420 kilos being less than 50% of the towing vehicles weight and under 750 kilos
    This argument has been going on for years
    I could soon adapt it to braked and I have everything I need to do it
    But I am a stubborn old git and until I get nicked and someone clearly and legally makes it clear then I won't
    I would take it into court if it came to it CE marking is problem and I am working on that with a tow bar manufacture see what develops

    Good init
     
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    but if a trailer as brakes fitted then they must work
    you are governed by speed limits if on recovery .
    i used mine for trike recovery never ever knew about speed limits or brakes years ago.
    i still have a single bike tow spec. based around the intertrade version .
     
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    Don't you just love it bloody mine field or what
    Solution wait till I get nicked
    I really can't see the law pulling me if it does happen it will be vosa
    Wat and see but I won't use this sytem in Europe if it goes wrong with law it would be a nightmare getting it all back home not to mention costs
     
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    You sir are my hero I have been looking for a valid explanation for a long time when you try to read though the directives it's bloody complicated and full of referrals to other directives that just run around in circles

    This will satisfy a pull by the law and gives a strong argument with vosa
    But I like the last point he makes about it will take a court to make a final judgement cop out or what
    I love the british legal system nobody will say yes or no even when a previous judgment has been made

    New hitch to be ordered
    and will be fitting cables next week
    Keep you posted
    Again many thanks
     
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    Off topic, but do you enjoy riding the trike when off on trips?

    It certainly looks cool:thumb:
     
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    Any trailer or towed vehicle irrespective of weight the following applies
    If brakes are fitted they must work end of story. Yet there are plenty who ignore that and have done so for years.
     
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    It brings a whole new world to motorhome use
    We have always had bikes and camping but as we got older it lost its appeal so we moved over to trikes and trailer tents again as you get older you want the comfort so we got rid of everything and bought the van and rewaco
    It's as near perfect as we could get comfortable living and freedom there is nothing better on a summers day to just go for a run out to coast or just a local run for a meal when on sites we have transport to go where we like and no matter where we stop its a head turner some times we can't get away from people with questions it's quite a buzz and I don't mind
    Shortest run chip shop
    Longest run trike alone from home to Portsmouth Santander crossing and rode it home via Rotterdam
    Elaine would never let me part with it nor would I want to
    It's proberbly the most fun we get together
    I think snowbird is same with his buggy
    as we come closer to retirement I believe it will get more and more use

    Do we enjoy it the word enjoy does not even come close
     
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