Trailors. French type.

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  1. Tintin

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    :xgrin:seen a few trailors in France with twin hitch points makes reversing seem easy anyone know if legal in uk and were to get them.
     
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    It took me a minute or two to find it, it looks brilliant. I wonder if they will be able to make one that can take a Smart car or IQ.
    The name "Tracty" can also find the device (in French of course).
    Alan
     
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    Hi, Mike looked on that one but don't seem to be on there
     
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    Hi, rosalan what site did you look on
     
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    €3000, what a bargain.
     
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    It would never work. The pivot point is the rear MH axle. one of those 'trailers' big enough for a smart or Aygo would have a 'sideswipe' effect of some 3.5M ,in addition to the overhang behind the rear wheels on the MH already. You'd never be able to turn a corner.
    It would probably also not be classed as a trailer in the Uk & would exceed the '30%' rule for overhang.
     
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    Does the fact that the wheels act like castors not negate any manouvering problems and it must be a trailer if it has to be hitched on surely ? There are other examples of castoring twin hitch trailers which look better balanced on youtube.
     
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    try here

    they have been about for years. There were quite a few reported failures. The problem with a car would be the tow hitch weight constraint.
     
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    Similar?

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    The site Mike mentioned which is the same place if you look up 'Tracty' on Youtube; Cheers
     
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    Ok thanks :xThumb:
     
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    On the motorbike ones yes, not really too much of a problem. But Rosalan was asking about the same type but for a car.
    It would be just like extending the MH behind the rear axle by an extra couple of metres or more. & the resulting swing across into oncoming vehicles from the pivot point of the back axle.
    It is doubtful that you'd be able to turn any corner in most urban settings.
     
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    Out of interest with all the new trailer regulations, if you import a trailer from, and lets keep it relevant to this thread, France, what certification do you need with it and do you need to register it in the UK somewhere?
     
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    Interesting they show it being towed ok, show it being unloaded ok, but I wanna see it being loaded..
    That is a heavy old bike to push up that ramp alone.
    I think a winch might be the only sensible way to go !
     
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    On the video I've seen he rides it on and off.
     
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    Hopefully someone who lives in France & with a french trailer will be along soon.I'd think that it would be similar to here where all trailers , regardless of weight, have a full 'ficha tecnica' , basically a registration document that includes all & every detail re ; trailer. length ,width, height, weight axle number, axle spacing, chassis number ,etc; etc; etc.
    This would easily suffice for a iva test.

    http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca//vehicletype/individual-vehicle-approval.asp

    If it's from a manufacturer that sells throughout Europe then it will have EU homologation & can be easily checked as the chassis number starts with EC* then a sixteen figure number.
    " EC Whole Vehicle Type Approval (ECWVTA) is based around EC Directives and provides for the approval of whole vehicles, in addition to vehicle systems and separate components. This certification is accepted throughout the EU without the need for further testing until a standard is updated or your design changes."
    http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca//vehicletype/ecwvta-framework-directive.asp

    A lot on the earlier French trailer link , the "ERDE" trailers are sold across the EU so I'd assume the'd have EC* homolgation.

    All info from the VOSA site.

    http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/vehicletype/trailers.asp
     
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    On top of which these things use a plastic material for the caster bearings - more than adequate for a motorbike (or two) trailer but they would need to be bronze or ball/roller races to manage the weight of a car. The increase in material and engineering would make such a trailer extremely expensive. And then of course, as you say, driving with that tail swing would be "interesting".
     
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    A friend of mine uses one for his motor scooter and maintains that it is not a trailer but a Rack which he has successfully challenged the ferries with when they have wanted to charge extra for a trailer. And a police officer who wanted to do him for speeding.
    He says that the UK ones ore c**p and told me to buy a French one when I was thinking about it. Some of the French ones have proper suspension and bearings which the UK one he had did not. You only get what you pay for really.
    As others have said not practical for anything more than a meter and probably not legal because it would be treated as a projection.
    Steve
     
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    Oh dear must stop replying to these old posts that pop up at the bottom.
    Steve
     
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