Towing or tugging?

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  1. TDH

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    I'm not trying to be a smarta*s here, or start a row, I'm genuinely interested to know the answer to a question that's puzzling me.

    On the way down to the southwest at the weekend we saw a lot of m/hs towing cars around the size of Fiestas, Corsas and so on.

    My question is, what's the difference between using a biggish m/h to tow a car, and using a car to tow a biggish caravan? What's the thinking behind a decision one way or the other?

    I guess what I'm puzzled by is, if the m/h is too big to use as everyday travel once esconced on a site, therefore necessitating a towed car, why not just pull a caravan with a car and save on an engine?
     
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    IMHO if you are towing a car behind a MH then you have it a**e about face and should sort yourself out.
    There are a few exceptions to this rule and that is to do with disability.
    The able bodied people who tow cars behind motorhomes and who use the excuse that they don't like towing a caravan, should be 5th wheelers not motorhomers.

    Pete:Cool:
     
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    A point I've made many times.

    Silly to tax, insure and wear out two motor vehicles when one would do. Not only that, length for length much more comfort in a caravan. Caravans are amazingly cheap.

    It's all down to travel pattern I think. Always on the move, wild camping the MH scores. A proper restful holiday or a winter in the sun, surely a caravan.
     
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    Depends on where you are and what you're doing. I am guilty of towing a car but only in the UK and this is because the UK is generally a bad place for motorhoming. I do not take a car when in mainland Europe as then I can tour properly.
    If I had the storage space I would get a trailer caravan for my travel in the UK, but with the extra storage charges it is (just) cheaper to run the Toad.

    Towing a small car is a lot easier than towing a caravan though. You need a camera to even tell it's there.
     
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    hit it on the head

    Pete you hit it on the head... we tow a car on a 4 wheel Brian James trailer... why? so we can get about and off a site.. the car carries our two scooters and my wheelchair. Now there is no way that I can carry the scooters in the RV I have as it is 23'9" long ...see the red link blow for a picture.. let it load... I have been stuck on sites in the past or limited to a local area. A caravan is no good (been there) as it cannot take the loads I need to carry.

    There are times I just use the RV and no trailer and a folded up wheelchair on a carrier on the tow ball.. so with a motor home and trailer I have the best of all worlds.

    Plus I have not found a caravan that has the comfort and gear i get as standard in an RV.. like roof aircon, generator (4 kw) combo microwave.. domestic 26" tv and DV larger fridge and separate freezer than I have in the kitchen at home.. so for me it is simples as they say.


    Bob:Blush:
     
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    This old chestnut again !:Doh:
    If we want a 'caravan holiday' we tow the car, plant the motorhome on site and use the the car for visiting attractions in the area.
    If we want a 'motorhome holiday' i.e. travel from spot to spot without any hassle, wild camp (as last week take the van on the beach, cook breakfast etc)
    use aires, and enjoy the freedom of a motorhome, then we only use the motorhome. As you see two completely different types of break , something you can not do with a caravan set up.
    And before anyone asks we use an A frame , and will do until someone decides it's against the law:thumb:
     
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    Totally agree have done both and as we tour now motorhome is best, but if we wanted a mainly static holiday caravan every time.
     
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    who law is that?

    Who's law is that?:reel:


    Bob:Blush:
     
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    Oh dear,thought you might pop up on this one:helptitanic:

    Until English law rules it's illegal M Lud:Eeek:
     
  10. Ridgeway

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    OK we are totally new to the MH game but we have just moved from a tin tent to a MH and used the MH at the weekend for the first time. Our simple rule was that we need to be able to get off a pitch in under 30mins, in the tin tent it was at least 2hrs plus with the awning etc and this stopped us ever from moving on it was just too much effort, with the MH we plan to move every day, max 2days and in the stationary time we'll all be be 2 wheels once I've sorted out how to carry all the bikes.....

    Was surprised to see though at the weekend that nearly all the MH's were set up for what looked like long stints although nearly all had scooters to get around on, no cars though.
     
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  11. Dereckerick

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    I take the MH to race events where I have no EHU etc, so solar for a few days in the middle of a Welsh field. I don't need any additional transport.

    If we go on a site trip with the kids for a week or so, we will drag the car if we are away from civilisation, if we are close to a town we don't bother taking the car, I'll just take a bike or walk.

    Having a 2 week old we take the car as a convenience in case we have to nip out for supplies if we are on a site.

    We are doing a few more sites these days due to the kids but travelling any distance in a rammed car with the family is hideous compared to the MH.

    Just nice to have options, I don't pay the insurance or fuel either, very lucky!!
     
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    Same here, we don't collect our motorhome for another two weeks, but having been caravanners for ages, we too just want to have the ability to tour and move quickly. As you say, it takes a good two hours to move off a pitch with a caravan.

    Will still consider towing a small car if we fancy a longer stay in the UK, but in Europe, it will just be the motorhome and bikes.

    Hazel.
     
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    You dont look very hard then Bob
    http://fifthwheelco.com/inos-caravan/inos.aspx

    although his claim isnt quite right in some respects because i have seen a Bailey with a small slide in the bedroom area although it was a one off and commissioned by its owner
     
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    The only way forward

    No competition, what you need is a tow car that is a motor home in its own right, a luxurious extremely economical high speed people carrier, something for the everyday school run, something with 4 adult beds and all the trimmings.
    174bhp so it will tow any nice caravan. Absolute best of both worlds.
    A real gem.:thumb:
     

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    I intend to tow a trike this year,but this is mostly for fun as well as visiting local places.

    one dis-advantage of towing over tugging are site fees.
    car and carvan ----- one pitch fee,
    MH and toad ------- one pitch fee plus rxtra vehicle.

    last time I look ed me old gitl plus trailer took up the same spaceas car and caravan on site:Angry::Angry::Angry:
     
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    Only one site charge

    Any you only pay for one pitch as the Cali is just a tow car:Wink:
     
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    Try parking that on an Aires :Rofl1:
     
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    mini artic is the way . lots room .smaller in length than most cars and caravans .one tax one insurance . carries 7 people . could have every thing bobs looking for . tow unit only the size of a car. i,m suprised more dont have them. the 5ers are getting close but only close .hee hee .
    cant see it taking more than a few minutes to go . just put bits in cupboards etc . check door catches and away. easy to park ideal for wilding . must be i dont use campsites . ha ha .
    cheap ferries . far cheaper than a motorhome. ask the 5ers they know .
     
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    I too tow a toad; best move I ever made especially touring in the UK. This is not, as yet, a friendly place to motorhome; much to be learned from the French and Germans. To tow a caravan of the same quallity and safety I would need a hefty towcar with fuel consumption to match; all the time!

    Motorhome avg. 25mpg and I do approx 5000 a year. The remainder I trundle around in a focus TDi; 50mpg plus. Toad, 50 mpg £150 to insure, £150 to tax. Is it worth it - personally I think so especially the way fuel is going.

    As already stated not much need to take on the continent as provision for MH is so much better.
     
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    You have to compare like with like.. ie motorhome and caravan without awnings.

    a caravan WITHOUT an awning only takes a few minutes to hitch up..

    Stick a driveaway awning on a motorhome and you will take just as long to pack up .. and that's no fun when all you want to do is pop out for a drive or do some shopping.. that is easy with a car and why so many take toads..

    I can park up overnight with my caravan and be up and away next day just as quickly and as easily as a motorhome.. ok, maybe 10 mins extra to pack the waste carrier and hitch up ... I've also used car parks for overnight stops... without unhitching.
    I've watched motorhomers take four hours to pack up .. myself included, but what's the rush.. even if it takes all day ...
     
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