Top Marks Asda!!

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  1. MHVirgins

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    We thought we should share this story with everyone!
    As from 1st October the Scottish government has imposed a ban on "cut price" promotions on alcohol in supermarkets:Doh: e.g. no more buying 3 bottles of wine for £10 or similar bargain deals:Blush:
    However, top marks to Asda who were shown on BBC Scotland tonight saying that they had found a way round this latest legislation........their response was to drop certain wines to £3.33 per bottle!!!:thumb::thumb::thumb:
    Asda certainly get our vote, since we can still buy three bottles of wine for a tenner!:Laughing:
    Stitch that Alex Salmond:Blush::Rofl1:


     
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    even better you now save 1p on the deal 3x £ 3.33 = £ 9.99
     
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    The Scottish government should be applauded for tackling this serious health issue..

    Asda have put profit before health ... :thumbdown:
     
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    Why should I have to pay over the odds for a cheap bottle of wine. Government forcing prices up does not solve the problem. Those with drink problems will still get their booze same as a drug addict gets their fix. It is education that is needed not penalising everyone.

    In France you can buy cheap wine from 1 Euro a bottle. Why do they not have the same problems. I have a lot of time for Alec Salmond but don't agree with this move. What's next ban 2 for 1 on Choc Chip Cookies to solve the obesity problems. :Doh:
     
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    Our wine comes from Lidl in France at about 1.89 euros per bottle. We bring about 2 dozen boxes back each time we cross. We also buy Saint Omer beer at about £10 for 24 tins. The UK can do what it likes as far as we are concerned.

    What I find pathetic is that an alcoholic will change his/her drinking habits because of a simple price change; surely we can avoid buying the kids a pair of shoes or a coat for winter.

    Basic government policy is entirely aimed at poor people. I have no idea what their plans are to reduce alcohol consumption amongst the rich folk.
     
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    Exactly , they would be better taxing high fat junk type food cakes crisps and biscuits , if they seriously want to help the British population. Stop the buy 2 get 1 free in that type of food .
    Obesity is a growing problem. Far too many fat children and adults . Its a time bomb ticking for the years to come.
    I bought 2 pairs of trousers in M&S last week and was a good size smaller than i normally am in every pair i tried on. I could have gone the next size down ( making it 2 sizes smaller ) but wanted them for work so went a bit looser.
    I haven't lost any weight. So its obviously a ploy to make you feel better about the size you actually are.

    I buy 3 for a tenner wine , every week . I dont drink it all in one evening.
    ( Though have been known to polish off a bottle and a half , over a long evening sitting outside the mh chatting at a meet :Blush:)
    Im not an alcoholic , but then im not a greedy b@gger either. Everything in moderation.
    Besides is wine the alkies choice ? All the ones i see on the park benches / bus stops around Wakefield have carrier bags full of strong cider and cans of strong beer.
    They must be posher up in Scotland.
     
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    On it's own it is not a solution, but cheap freely available booze has been identified as a contributing factor and has let many down the the path of self destruction ..

    Are you denying that the problem isn't getting bigger and if not, it has nothing to do with pricing and availability ?

    Asda have undermined the efforts .. this is not socially responsible.. and it's not just Scotland.
    Last year n England and Wales over 1,000,000 people were admitted to hospital suffering from an alcohol related illness .. the financial and human cost is staggering ..

    My point was, tacking this problem by whatever means should take president over supermarket profits and how much tax is levied..
     
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    The majority of alcoholics don't sit on a park bench.. but at home. Many are unaware they have a problem, and by they time they admit it, it's almost too late.. because if not tackled, sooner or later they will end up there..

    I have met many, it is soul destroying talking to and trying to help a once proud husband and father or mother and wife.. doctor or engineer, destitute and in the grip of an incurable disease..

    Alcoholism isn't an illness of the poor ... doesn't care whether your black or white, rich or poor.. own a house or live on a bench.

    The wino on the park bench is cliché image , one many think can never happen to them .. oddly, none on the park bench did either..

    I've told my story before.. so not going to repeat... all I will say is if you are drinking every day , or on your own, you may have a problem.. this is not directed at anyone who has posted ..
     
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    I wonder why the UK has such an alcoholic drink culture, where the quantities you can consume is boasted about and having a really heavy hangover is a badge of honour...:Eeek:

    JJ :Cool:
     
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    Thats a load of rubbish Jim
    Bit like blaming the tobacco industry for my cough, or Smith and Wesern for all the gun crime
    Geo
     
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    your opinion.. and IMO, a spurious argument for not tackling alcohol related illnesses

    * taxing fags to the hilt and education has cut tobacco consumption...

    * licencing fire arms and strict gun controls has kept gun UK crime relatively low .

    * reducing cost and ease of access and purchase of alcohol has increased alcohol related illnesses.
     
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    So, using your logic Jim
    Next time im done for speeding I send the fine to Ford:thumb:
    Works for me
    Where theres blame theres a claim:RollEyes:
    Forgot to add
    your wrong there too
    Changing public opinion is whats made the difference not prices or tax
     
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    sadly you are correct, and while it is socially acceptable, nay even applauded by some to get rat arsed, have a hangover and brag about it, it won't change .... but making it cheap and available 24/7 isn't helping a deteriorating situation ...
     
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    I agree entirely Jim,

    However stopping cheap booze deals at Asda or elsewhere is not the answer. It is just soundbite politics which does not address the problem. It is like putting a plaster on a gaping wound.

    As you rightly said alcohol problems affect all, rich and poor, so is it a solution just to try and price the poor out of drinking. They will just spend more on alcohol to the detriment of everything else. So logically to make that policy work you must make alcohol un-affordable to all, or just go all the way. If it is such a curse let's have prohibition. But as we seen in the US that caused more problems, illegal production, alcohol that killed, gang warfare and so on.

    As I said before the answer is education. When I was in France we would drink wine at every family meal, along with an aperitif and even a digestif. The kids were always at the table, I never saw anyone drunk nor a problem caused by dink. Never!

    So the answer is EDUCATION.... not gimmicks attacking the supermarkets, and that also hurt small business such as off-licences, not taxation and certainly not prohibition.....

    Once again the policy used hits every law abiding responsible citizen which is unfair, and it does not target the afflicted with the genuine HELP which they do really need.........

    As you said its "an incurable disease".. so stopping 3 bottles of wine for £10 is not a solution which will come close to stopping the disease in the slightest.....
     
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    Yes , much of what you say is true ..

    but, it's not a lack of education, but acceptability, until it becomes socially unacceptable to drink in excess nothing will change.. it's not only tolerated, but something to brag about ..

    Take smoking as an example.. it is not only banned in all indoor public places but is now seen as as socially unacceptable , even in the open air non smokers frown on the smoker...

    ..so why should those who are sober need to suffer the antics of the binge drinkers making most city centres no-go most nights of the week ? Yes, I know it's against the law.. but can't be enforced.. it will only change when people who drink want it to change by changing their lifestyle .. not with more laws or taxes..

    Alcoholism is incurable but it can be controlled .. as demonstrated by the thousands who now live a sober life.. including yours truly..


    I guess we can agree to disagree on it, but I still maintain Asda are wrong to circumvent a law designed to reduce consumption.. and even if it doesn't work, Asda should give it some respect.
     
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    Agree totally Asda are just flouting the law by this and showing they have no respect for the law, wonder how they would react if a shoplifter got off by a manoeuvring of the law who would be the first to shout.
     
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    My nephew, aged just 28 years, from the east end of Glasgow, died a few weeks ago as a result of drug and alcohol abuse, mainly alcohol, with Vodka his drink of choice as is common in Glasgow, and which is pretty much unaffected by Salmond's law.

    He knew he would die young. he talked openly about it and even planned most of his funeral. He also said if he could not afford to buy drink he would just steal it.

    This new law would not have changed his life one iota...... He needed real help, help which his family tried to give but was sadly too late.

    This is where we and the politicians should be acting together....... not slamming 3 bottles of Blossom Hill for a tenner.......
     
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    so increasing the price of alcohol results in a higher crime rate as they need to steal more to get by.

    if they want a solution to this problem reduce the cost of alcohol then they can all just get rat ar$ed and die in the gutters thus helping the overcrowding of this country.

    the government also said smoking is bad and increased taxes and banned it in public places the result of which has led to a large hole in the revenue they have to spend so they put tax up to cover the loss.:Doh:
     
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    Trying to price alcohol out of the reach of all but the very rich is not the solution!

    If alcohol is too expensive then as said before people who must have it will steal it or anything inorder to fund their addiction.

    Also by trying to price it beyond reach will only turn people to drugs as they will then get their buzz from the then cheaper readily avaiable drugs.

    I do enjoy a drink but thankfully can take it or leave it, so why should I be punished because weak willed sad people cannot control themselves???

    Regards Pat
     
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    No disrespect Pat, but this opinion shows little understanding of alcoholism and the alcoholic ..

    You are fortunate that you can 'take it or leave it' for millions this is not the case, to put it down to having a weak sad character is completely wrong ... In saying that, I know you meant no disrespect ..

    The 'hows and the whys' are not fully understood but recent research has identified a gene that appears to increase the risk of alcoholism... which may explain why it runs in families .. I prefer to call it a condition rather than an illness.

    My grandfather, my father and his brother were alcoholic, as am I and one of my sons.. I also had an uncle on my mothers side who tragically took his own life after battling alcohol for many years. This is not uncommon..

    So I do have some experience, not just in my own life and family but by meeting other alcoholics .. yes, they are often sad defeated people, many driven to suicide as they see no other way out...

    It is a human tragedy on a massive scale, that is little understood and with even less sympathy ..
     
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