Too good to be true?

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  1. GeebeeJaybee

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    Ok, so we have seen a MH listed that is our preferred layout. The price seems too good to be true, so I am already cautious.

    Other than an HPI check (which from previous threads seems hardly worth the paper it is written on if the MH is stolen) what other checks can I do?

    We wouldn't be parting with money in advance etc and would want to veiw the registration docs of course.

    Any other advice would be welcome.

    Jen
     
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    Courtesy Rudyard Kipling,

    Part of poem I used and continue to use. Served me well over the years;

    I KEEP six honest serving-men
    [​IMG] (They taught me all I knew);
    Their names are What and Why and When
    [​IMG] And How and Where and Who.

    In other words, question everything.
     
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    View it at the owners address and see how they come across ,do they seem genuine ,are they open and forthcoming with the answers to your questions .
    How long have they had the van ,has it been serviced and looked after ,receipts to prove ?
    If they've not had it long why they selling ,you could contact previous owners .
    There are bargains out there just be careful and trust your instincts.



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    Is it private? eBay? a dealer? Be very cautious with eBay, if its being sold for a friend, a long way away or they ask for a deposit first, don't bother with them.
    Also, check with your bank about the safest way to pay.
    Have a good look at the van including a test drive ( even as a passenger) make sure everything works and ask to see service and maintenance paperwork as well as the registration certificate.
    If anything seems fishy ( it already seems too good to be true, remember) walk away. Make sure your head rules your heart.
     
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    Repeat of Vlad the impaler advice, if ANY of the paperwork is missing walk away. Previous owner is an excellent idea as they will no doubt have details of the purchaser if that is not who you are stood in front of OOPS!!! DO NOT got with cash in pocket .... one scam is to lure you with cash to an address, which is not theirs and then do a quick rob job as you exit your car knowing you have a wad in the pocket
     
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    In the past when buying a motorbike, car etc I try to take along a friend who has absolutely no interest in wether I buy said item or not. This acts as a balance to stop you getting carried away, obviously do all the usual checks as well
     
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  7. GeebeeJaybee

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    Thanks Everyone.
     
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    I have mentioned in a previous post about the number of scam adverts for vans on Gumtree. On a daily basis I have found the same scam adverts being posted and have reported them to Gumtree using the 'report' link on the ad but the same vehicle gets posted back on Gumtree a short time after. Gumtree say they are not able to stop them. The scam adverts are easy to identify, the vehicle is grossly underpriced, within the photos of the vehicle there is an email address to contact the 'seller' and they don't answer the phone number that is posted on the ad.
    I have asked Gumtree why is it that I can find these scams on a daily basis within minutes of searching yet they are not able to detect them - still waiting for an answer.
     
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    >> Too good to be true?


    If you have to ask almost certainly YES. Tread very carefully, your foot may go through the floor.
     
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  10. GeebeeJaybee

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    Yeah, we are hesitating - it is on ebay but he does say he will take paypal payment so that gives some protection.

    We will bevery careful.
     
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    All this caution is great.... But don't let it stand in the way of what could be a really good buy.
    Take someone you know with you who knows vehicles inside out. Preferably someone who knows MHs as well.
    If the seller seems anything but 100 percent or the van then walk.

    Make sure you do a proper in depth HPI do not rely on the cheap Internet 5 quid ones.

    Examine all paperwork. Don't be hurried !

    Do a list of every single item that must be checked and stick to checking each entry. Don't be hurried.

    Check every mechanical component. Drive it with all heaters off and the radio off. Take it a distance to make sure it gets really hot. Allow it to tick over for ten minutes after the drive. Don't be hurried..

    Make sure the vehicle is registered in the sellers name. He or she hopefully will have owned it for some time. If it's not or they have only had it a short time walk.

    It's a balance but common sense time taken and a good assistant in the form of a knowledgeable person should keep you out of trouble..

    Good luck !
     
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    Have you actually inspected the van in the metal yet, so to speak?
    There are many reasons for selling at a low price that are genuine, so ask them what the reason is.
    Obvious first check is that the VIN number matches in all locations (none missing) and that the riveted plate under the bonnet shows no sign of tampering. You aren't allowed to remove these, if it is bent creased or in anyway looks suss, then this isn't the van for you.
     
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    PayPal only protects you to a certain amount (£450 from memory but I may be wrong)
    I doubt if the seller would actually accept PayPal, it's just that cash is not a payment option for sellers
     
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    PayPal doesn't give protection for motorised vehicles
     
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    It is definitely a scam!

    No way we would have parted with money anyway.

    Shame though as it was the layout we wanted - the price wasn't what actually attracted us!

    Shame really - I was hoping he would try the "army base location" to put us off viewing. Since I have full security clearance for any government or military site that would have been fun!

    Jen
     
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    it would be interesting to have link to vehicle
     
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    Yeh come on we ain't arf nosey.....:D
     
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    nosey - what me ! :rolleyes:
     
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    Can I ask how you know it is a scam now......what has happened to convince you?

    And, as others have said, a link to it would be interesting. You never know, someone else on here could be looking at the same advert and thinking "bargain, I'll snap it up".........
     
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    I can't link it as I reported it to Ebay and they removed it immediately! Maybe they remove while investigating?

    I had been dubious as it had seemed cheap - but not stupid cheap (maybe someone just wanting a quickish sale). In addition the person selling had not had any other items bought or sold.

    When I tried the phone number given and it was not in use I reported it on ebay as a suspected fraudulent listing.

    I now know it was a scam as I managed to find a link to a listing from a couple of years ago that all the details had been copied from on an anti scam site when searching for the registration number.

    The anti scam blog for future reference was http://busterjack.blogspot.co.uk/

    Jen
     
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