To pass or not to pass (mot)

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  1. acting_strange

    acting_strange

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    She passed yet again...wooohooo

    Just an advisary on the tyre walls. cracking so will be looking into replacing those this year :)
     
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  2. pappajohn

    pappajohn Funster Life Member

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    thats a new one on me....i thought sidewall damage was a fail point. :Eeek:

    and cracking is damage.

    wheres the MOT oracle when you need him

    GEO...GEO
     
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  3. Carol

    Carol Funster Life Member

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    Alway's a relief, we have our van and car booked in tomorrow :Eek!: so it's fingers crossed.
     
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  4. MikeD

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    Just out of interest - How old are your tyres?

    MikeD :thumb:
     
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    i've had advisery on that too before :Wink: stan
     
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  6. acting_strange

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    errrmmmm old?......sorry they were on when we bought it...
     
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    What can I say John....:imoutahere:
     
  8. dave newell lvs

    dave newell lvs Trader-Vehicle Services

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    Cracking of tyres is only a failure if the internal cord structure is visible wthin the crack, I've queried this before with our local testing station. What amazes me more is how many vehicle owners obviously don't look at their tyres at all, probably at least 50% of all the motorhomes we service show sidewall cracking. A few owners even take our advice and replace the tyres before they go bang!:BigGrin:

    D.
     
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  9. MikeD

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    Derek

    Look for something on the tyre wall like this. This tyre is March 2004 :thumb:

    Mike
     
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    Derek

    Look for something on the tyre wall like this. This tyre is March 2004 :thumb:

    Mike
     
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    Well when i retired 9 years ago after 25yrs MOT testing the rule was that you had to be able to see the tyre cords through the crack before falure and not allowed to poke the tyre with a screw driver etc.
    Things may have changed now but always gave a very strong advisory on any sign of tyre problems, the problem with MOT testing is that VOSA say one thing but as soon as things go wrong you are in the do da

    dave e
     
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  12. Geo

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    A tyre has a cut the length of which is in excess of 25 mm or 10% of section width, whichever is greater, deep enough to reach the ply or cords


    A lump, bulge or tear caused by separation or partial failure of its structure. This includes any lifting of the tread rubber


    Any of its ply or cord exposed

    These are the 3 most common reasons for failure quoted verbatim
    There are many more failure reason

    looking at the first one how do you tell a 1" Cut From a 1" crack
    Because reading the rule as a pedant and you have to be in MoT world.
    The Cut would fail The crack would be an advise:Doh:
    The next two are much simpler

    So John Cracks dont count

    Geo
     
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  13. Geo

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    Hi Dave
    Things move so fast these days if you retired last month you would all ready be out of date and behind with the changes :RollEyes:
    As i said in the previous post you really do have to read the rules to the letter and apply nothing else to them there is no room for opinion or common sense these days if you are picked up on an incorrect fail or missed item you really do need to prove to the letter that the manual was followed and absolutely non of your opinion was involved with the decisions made fail to to that and your out of a job:Sad:
    Most complaints as you may know, come from cars that have just been bought with a new MoT and matey down the pub reckons it shouldnt have passed :RollEyes:
    We have Barrack room Mot testers as well as Lawyers
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    This tyre is week 3 of 2004
     
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    Just for Geo and Dave Newells amusement.

    Customer bought her motor home in for yearly check over and MOT. Had new tyres when she returned from his last euro trip a month ago, so they were fine - new reverse switch, indicator lense, front box and she was good to go.

    Came out with an advisory; ALL FOUR TYRES PERISHED

    I asked at the desk, they shrugged their shoulders, so I decided to have the checked as I didn't want the woman to 1) worry and 2) go away thinking I had ripped her off the previous month when she had new ones.

    Went to 3 tyre dealers, all checked and said they were fine, no ageing, cracking, splitting or deterioration of any kind - they even pointed out the ink still being present.

    So I return to the MOT station and ask them to/if they could remove the advisory as I didn't want to worry the owner, especially as the tyres are all new and were not perished at all.

    The tester was summoned......' Motor homes get this - only perished at the bottom, they seal back up when they start using it again and they are fine then' :Rofl1::Rofl1:

    I told him to book my banana boat in. He isn't allowed near my vehicles any more.:thumb:
     
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    Good luck!
     
  17. Rob e Lee

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    On a slightly different tack - I took my Kia Sorento in for its MOT and the first thing I was asked by the tester was if the timing belt had been changed. I informed him that on my diesel model it was a chain and not a belt. He said I was mistaken and that it was a belt. I asked if the timing belt was part of the MoT and he gave me some spiel. By now I was getting a bit miffed so went back to the point of it having a Timing Chain - not belt! I was a bit sarcastic and said to him 'If you're not up to speed with this make I can take it elsewhere' I don't think he appreciated this and he got quite heated telling me I was wrong. Decided to ring Kia Technical enquiries and was informed - as I already new - that my car did indeed have a Timing Chain. I tried giving my phone to the guy but he refused to talk to Kia and walked off.

    Anyway, MoT went ahead and I thought out of sheer spite he would find something to fail it on - it passed:BigGrin: But, he charged £5.00 extra for adjusting headlight aim. My car has self levelling suspension and beam can be switch controlled inside cab. This has happened on two separate occasions - same garage - makes you wonder?

    Rob
     
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  18. Peter & Elaine

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    Ours is in now sat at home fingers crossed
     
  19. cranky

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    You've used them more than once!!!!!!:Eeek:
     
  20. Rob e Lee

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    Only used them because it passed the 1st time - if he had failed it then next time round I would be looking elsewhere.

    Rob
     
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