To buy or not to buy

Discussion in 'Motorhome Chat' started by Motorhome Muppets, Jul 18, 2016.

  1. Motorhome Muppets

    Motorhome Muppets Funster

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2014
    Messages:
    61
    Likes Received:
    61
    Location:
    Nr Uttoxeter
    We have a 20 year old Swift Royale. We bought her 2 years ago to see if we like motorhoming - we do!!!
    We are wondering whether to upgrade a little now. We would want to buy one around £23,000. We only do about 3000 miles per year. Here is the quandary - the Swift had mechanical problems but they are all sorted now and these last few months we have had trouble free trips - also she is as dry as a bone so we are fairly confident that we could run her for the next few years without any major repairs. At the price we want to pay it would be possible to inherit problems that we don't have now, but get a more up to date looking van.
    Is it worth changing it? I have looked at a few on Autotrader just to see what we would get for this money (must have a rear lounge) and I like the look of them, but can't decide.
    What are the thoughts of you more experienced funsters?
     
  2. GeriatricWanderer

    GeriatricWanderer Funster

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2015
    Messages:
    1,054
    Likes Received:
    3,978
    Location:
    Back to a very damp and cold Essex :-(
    Better the devil...............

    With the mileage you do, I'd stick with what you have and enjoy it - maybe it will run forever, maybe it won't. Another £23,000 won't gaurantee trouble and cost free and that's a lot of £ per mile.

    20 year old runners are far better than 2 year olds with damp or scuttle eg issues.
     
    • Like it Like it x 4
  3. WillH

    WillH Funster

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2008
    Messages:
    1,747
    Likes Received:
    1,471
    Location:
    SW Scotland
    I'd go along with the above, better the devil... You have obviously invested a little in the van recently to fix problems, why not enjoy the benefits of that. We often talk about our van and its age but always decide not to change. Our annual mileage is at least twice that of yours and we are very happy with it even with 50k on the clock.
     
    • Like it Like it x 3
  4. Gary217

    Gary217 Funster

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2015
    Messages:
    170
    Likes Received:
    157
    Location:
    New Forest, UK
    If it's in good nick I'd be tempted to keep it as it won't lose much now - if it gets troublesome then perhaps look to swap. You don't say what cab/chassis it's on but if it's 20 yrs old it'll have character (older Fiat front, square?), and 'old school' (as my kids say) vans do look good, we've got a 7 yr old van and it's not been trouble free so far and it has zero character.
     
    • Like it Like it x 3
  5. chaser

    chaser Funster

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2013
    Messages:
    7,714
    Likes Received:
    8,789
    Location:
    uttoxeter
    What they said(y)
    Ours will be ten year old this year, and we do at France two or three times a year but no intention of ever changing it.o
     
    • Like it Like it x 3
  6. ericroy

    ericroy Funster

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2013
    Messages:
    103
    Likes Received:
    77
    Location:
    Staffordshire
    Rather than spend lots of pounds on another vehicle that might be less reliable, how about having the upholstery re-done and giving the interior a new lease of life?
     
    • Like it Like it x 4
  7. Motorhome Muppets

    Motorhome Muppets Funster

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2014
    Messages:
    61
    Likes Received:
    61
    Location:
    Nr Uttoxeter
    Good suggestion - but the interior was reupholstered before we had it and is still looking good. It is the exterior that looks tired and dated.
     
  8. GeriatricWanderer

    GeriatricWanderer Funster

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2015
    Messages:
    1,054
    Likes Received:
    3,978
    Location:
    Back to a very damp and cold Essex :-(
    Just chuckle and smile when you read posts from new van owners worried about how much depreciation there is, which polish to use,

    You can't see the exterior when you're inside - why worry about what it looks like to others?

    Spending money to make things more attractive to others has always baffled me (unless of course you're a CC site user)
     
    • Like it Like it x 3
    • Nice One! Nice One! x 1
  9. Candapack

    Candapack Funster

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2014
    Messages:
    422
    Likes Received:
    1,548
    Location:
    Fife, Scotland
    We were like you. Had an older van for 2 years, liked the lifestyle, swapped for a new van. Love the van, but it was a lot of money.
    I was just looking at it today, wondering if we had done the right thing. We do 2 continental trips a year, of about 8 weeks each. In the UK, probably another 4 - 6 weeks. So maybe 22 weeks total, meaning it sits on the drive doing nothing for 30 weeks.
    By the sound of it, you use your van less than we do. If you like the layout, it doesn't leak and the mechanicals are fine, keep it. And keep the money.(y)
     
    • Like it Like it x 3
  10. kaasbroodje

    kaasbroodje Funster

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2013
    Messages:
    802
    Likes Received:
    897
    Location:
    Bristol
    What's your van, a 1996 P reg or thereabouts ? With the 115bhp 2.5tdi ??
    Still a perfectly good van in my mind, even if the drive isn't quite as good as newer vans...
    Still worth a fair bit and unlikely to devalue much, if at all...

    What are you thinking of changing too ? £23k offers a huge range of vans, from 2002 to perhaps 2010 or even newer...
    Buy carefully and you can get something that will probably depreciate about as slowly as yours.
    It doesn't have to 'cost' you anything extra, you're merely tying up the money :)
    We're on our 3rd van in 13years, to date we've lost £2,000 in depreciation and the current van is arguably in good profit...

    If you can afford to, why not ? (y)
     
    • Like it Like it x 2
  11. Motorhome Muppets

    Motorhome Muppets Funster

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2014
    Messages:
    61
    Likes Received:
    61
    Location:
    Nr Uttoxeter
    We do only do low mileage at present, I am still working. Was hoping in a few years things might change when I do retire. But the van would be even older then.
    It is 1996 N reg 2.5 not turbo @kaasbroodje, do you have any advice on suitable vans? My husband is disabled, so if newer vans (in our price bracket) were easier to drive that would certainly be something to consider. If we do not buy now, much of the money may be spent on other things - you know how it is, so will not get the chance again, could it keep going for another 10 years? If it could we could perhaps spend a couple of grand having the exterior tarted up.
     
  12. CWH

    CWH Funster Life Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2014
    Messages:
    3,112
    Likes Received:
    13,598
    Location:
    under a wand'rin' star
    ... make sure you get an automatic then! It makes a HUGE difference - disability or not. I had to presuade Him Indoors but it's the one thing he says he now wouldn't consider not having - in ANY vehicle. :)(y)
     
    • Like it Like it x 1
  13. kaasbroodje

    kaasbroodje Funster

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2013
    Messages:
    802
    Likes Received:
    897
    Location:
    Bristol
    Buy a 2005 van, in nine years time, you'll be back to where you are now...
    I'd normally suggest an Autosleeper with monocoque body (one piece, so less chance of damp). Newer the better...
    Unfortunately, not many are rear lounge (usually two long benches). A 2005 van is not that much more than a 2000 model or even a 1992 ! They are very desirable (hence low depreciation) and good ones sell quickly.
    This one isn't monocoque but I'm pretty sure it won't depreciate much and is very suited to disabled drivers (y)

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-FORD...578630?hash=item236bed71c6:g:FX0AAOSwnNBXZU1n
     
    • Useful Useful x 1
  14. Lenny HB

    Lenny HB Funster

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Messages:
    6,505
    Likes Received:
    6,486
    Location:
    West Sussex
    In your case as you have a very rare Swift one that is not damp and with your low mileage I would hang on until you retire by then you might have changed your views to layout.
    An auto would make driving easier that will restrict you to Mercs or LHD Fiats up to 2006. If you want RHD from 2006/2007 3 Lt X250 Fiat available with auto and from around 2012 2.3 with auto.
     
    • Like it Like it x 1
  15. The Dude

    The Dude Funster

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    2,477
    Likes Received:
    2,512
    Location:
    Near Uttoxeter and Crete
    Hi Pam, Totally agree with the OP. We are on our 3rd van in 3.1/2 years (you've probably noticed the changes as they appear on our drive) and have spent a fortune and lost a fortune in trading the previous ones in. Stick with the one you have if it suits you - a van of that age without any damp problems is a rare beast indeed.
    Best wishes
    Ann and Mark (across the road).
     
    • Like it Like it x 1
  16. Littlewheels

    Littlewheels Funster

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2014
    Messages:
    213
    Likes Received:
    158
    Location:
    West Yorkshire-Andalucia
    Hi, you might only do 3000 miles a year,however,you don't say how many nights!
    Cost isn't always the criteria, if you go on a Hotel holiday for 7/14 nights you might say it's only 14 nights we'll stay in a 1 star and spend little or you may stay in a 5 star and say it's the only time we get away we work hard,I don't care what it costs we are having a bit of luxury.
    The MH is the same, you get what fills your criteria and enjoy the luxury of the living space and the look of the Vehicle and feel good sitting behind the wheel it's all part of enjoying the MH experience.
    Do you deserve better than what you've got? You have a budget and want to change otherwise you wouldn't be doing this exercise.
    Get on and move onwards and upwards you're only here once.
     
    • Like it Like it x 2
  17. Spidey

    Spidey Funster

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2013
    Messages:
    932
    Likes Received:
    600
    Location:
    Wiltshire
    We changed recently when we didn't really need to but wanted to. Had a bit of a windfall and thought spend it before it gets swallowed up in something else. Do we regret it? No. You never know what you are getting with a new van, but so far cross fingers it is going ok. Our other van had a few teething problems that took time to sort. It was fully sorted and we traded it in :rolleyes:. So if you have the money and see a van you like then buy it, life it far too short.
     
    • Like it Like it x 1
  18. PhilG

    PhilG Funster

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2016
    Messages:
    544
    Likes Received:
    778
    Location:
    leicester
    Spend your money on going places in it .. if you don't get out enough, its dead money anyway, so why tie up more cash.
     
    • Like it Like it x 2
  19. Kevan

    Kevan Funster Life Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2014
    Messages:
    743
    Likes Received:
    658
    Location:
    Herne Bay
    Keep your old van, and give me the £23.000? just a thought.:)
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Like it Like it x 1
  20. TERRY&PAULINE

    TERRY&PAULINE Funster

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2015
    Messages:
    101
    Likes Received:
    98
    Location:
    coventry
    Keep your old van, you can do a lot of repairs for £23,000, the engine should be ok, trade vans do over 200.000 miles no problem, so the engine will last, nothing else to worry about, better the devil you know, have it resprayed fit new decals & fit a set of alloys if you want to tart it up, enjoy
     
Loading...

Share This Page