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    My van tyres were gripping the road like greased ballbearings today In the wet. Looking at the dates on the tyres I see they were made in 2008 so overdue for replacement although still a good bit of tread left.

    The existing ones are Continental Vanco camping tyres and I fancy a change. Michelin Agilis camping tyres seem to be one recommended brand. Any others I should be getting quotes for?

    They're 215/75 R16.

    Tim
     
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    Take a look at Hankook tyres.. The difference in grip level and noise levels is little short of amazing !
     
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    I found the same with moving to Agilis from Continental. Quieter and with more grip. Not sure if that is due to the change in manufacturer or just the newer rubber.
     
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    Continental Vanco Fourseasons will give you a bit better grip in the snow and quite possibly mud and damp grass.

    Martin
     
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    If you switch to Michelin and follow the recommended air pressure figure you'll probably find the ride much harsher. Continental give very precise guidance based on axle weight and in most cases this will mean a much lower pressure than the standard Michelin 80psi in all circumstances. :)
     
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    Not sure what you mean by "standard" pressure in a motorhome tyre. It should always be related to load surely?

    Anyhow, going to try the Michelin tyres on the basis that *any* new tyre has got to be better than my 8 year old ones for grip. They really are appalling in the wet. Wheelspin in third going up hills.

    I did look at Hankooks but as far as I can make out they don't do a camping tyre. Not a problem I dare say if you're a high mileage camper but I suspect age may be a bigger problem than wear for our van tyres.

    Thanks for the feedback though.

    Tim
     
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    Does that apply to their 10 ply tyres?
     
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    The point I was making is you would think pressure would be related to load but manufacturers seem to vary. Someone I know recently asked Pirelli but they just said use whatever your vehicle handbook suggests. Michelin, from what I've read on here are not much better but Continental seem to stand out and give a precise figures based on measured axle loads.

    And I don't think camper tyres will last longer than ordinary tyres and in a test in Germany Hankook came out as their best buy. Somewhere on the forum there is a link to the article. Camper tyres have extra reinforcing and are designed for heavy loadings but aren't necessarily essential for every vehicle, I think only the heavier vehicles would benefit. They wouldn't be my choice for my 3.5t PVC with 16" wheels.
     
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    Yes .. Our van was 4.1 tonne Miller
     
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    when I phoned Michelin I only gave them the base vehicle (Renault master) and axel loadings, tyre size and tyre load index, they then gave me the pressures I needed,
    I made no mention of it being a motorhome,
    perhaps Michelin know that the majority of Motorhomes are fully laden and dare I say it! some overladen, :) so to cover their arse they tell you to use the maximum pressures allowed for the tyre size you are asking for, just a thought,
     
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    In our van the water tank is behind the rear axle and the overall CofG is quite high, both factors that would seem to make tyres with a stiffer than normal sidewall desirable (at least according to camping tyre manufactures).

    It sounds sensible enough to me and I doubt I'll ever be buying enough tyres for my van to find out for myself which is best.
     
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    No problem with ride or noise. Have to wait for rain to assess grip. ;-)
     
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    Didn't get any significant tyre noise with the old Vanco tyres and certainly no more with the new Michelin tyres. Have to wait for the rain to assess wet grip.
     
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    We've had Agilis camper on our 4250kg Exsis and done over 6000miles on them found wet grip is very good and as said noise levels ok but I do run the rears on 5bar and front 4.5b seems to be about right for us even though Michelin advise 80psi
     
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    80psi seems to be the max pressure quoted on the sidewall rather than the pressure appropriate to load. It makes no sense to run all Agilis tyres on all campers at 80psi.
     
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    gt maxmilers for me . 10pr 116/114
    inflate to 70psi and i find it runs quiet ,got good grip. and seem to wear ok.
    had them for two winter trips abroad and am very pleased with them . payed 75 quid each fitted at hi/q tyres local to me . would certainly buy them again .that was inc vat as well.
     
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    Quite agree I think it's best to do a bit trial and error and choose the pressures that are best for your vehicle
     
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    Changed from Vanco to Michelin last year and a huge improvement in grip especially on wet grass, much quieter too. I run 60 in the front and 70 in the back just because there was so much discussion here that it became a quagmire.
     
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