Thoughts on 13amp hook up lead

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  1. takeaflight

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    at £44 its cheaper to buy a proper hookup lead and its a full 25mtr and rated at 16a:Doh:
     
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    It isn't clear (to me) whether the auto retract will allow the cable to remain fully extended in use or if it's spring loaded and will try to wind itself in.
     
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    I was always told/taught that you should always uncoil an extension lead when on prolonged use,, So I never leave my excess coiled up. :RollEyes:

    Dont ask me why,, cos I dont know why. :Doh:
     
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    Cos it will get hot:Eek!:
     
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    Correct..

    using it coiled up and it is likely to melt and go on fire ..
     
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    The cable may well be rated at only 13 amp and so could get somewhat over heated if used at 25% over load .[​IMG]
    If the cable is used coiled it can get very hot. [​IMG] We always spread the excess coils out over a couple of feet under the van.
    A purpose assembled 25 metre hook-up cable is the way to go in my opinion and I think the cable itself is tougher - as well as it being orange and can be more easily seen.
    If you want it on a reel I imagine there's something available.

    Just my opinions, of course:Smile:

    John
     
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    As others have said, it must be fully unwound before use. The other key point to check is the cross-sectional area of the conducting wires. They should be 2.5 mm sq. As it is rated at 13 amp, they could be 1.5 mm sq which is more common in domestic use.

    Apart from that it looks a pretty heavy solution to cable storage and I'm always conscious of payload - but that may not be an issue for you.
     
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    What do people plug in that uses 16 amp, we never get close to that, even in the UK. If you go abroad you have difficulty finding sites that have above 10 amp so I never get close to 16 amp usage & use a 13 amp reel.

    We have a JCB reel that has a cutout if it overheats, & it has yellow wire so no problems with seeing it. A lot smaller & lighter than the Orange lead used by most of us. :thumb:

    You can buy reels to hold your 16 amp lead, bright Orange, & I sold one recently. :Wink:
     
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    Hi,

    Taking what everyone has already said, I would just add that I have had 4 or 5 vacuum cleaners over the years, and the automatic cable retraction on each of them failed at some point and its a bl**dy nuisance trying to get that last 5 or 6 feet of cable back,

    I am sure it would not happen with this type of equipment but I just thought I would mention it.
     
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    I guess you don't winter in the UK Keith ?

    We regularly trip the 16A MCB , I noticed yesterday that the EHU lead had melted the snow around it .. it's not hot but clearly warm .. and it's a 2.5mm cable.

    However, I do agree, when abroad many EHU are only 10 A or less and a 1.5mm cable is more than adequate ..

    I have a fixed 15 mt lead from the RV, this is usually enough on proper pitches, in addition I have a 25 mt on a plastic reel and I also carry a 30mt 1.5mm extension reel , this comes in useful on aires when the hook ups points are centrally located .. one think I learnt, you can never have too much cable.. nothing worse than being a few meters short .. and before anyone asks.. yes I have used them all at the same time.. total distance 70 mt ..

    This was exceptional, but when your full time you have to be prepared for the unexpected.
     
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    Yes Jim, with that much space to heat you need 16A. But the majority of M/H wont use that much lecy. :Wink:

    Yes we do winter (although clearly not at the moment) in UK but our smallun dont need much more than 1000W fan heater to keep us warm. :BigGrin:
     
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    As the Warden of St Agnes Beacon Caravan Club Site in Cornwall in 1992 I saw an electric kettle - A Swan Brand electric kettle - that was rated at 4000 watts :Eeek::Eeek::Eeek:

    I don't know where they got it from, I don't even know if it was legal - but I was so shocked to see a 4000 watt kettle that I actually showed it to several other people on the site at that time.

    I am not an electrician but I reckon that was in excess of 16 amps and everytime they put it near a socket in the caravan it blew the site!

    That was until I eventually worked out that it was their hook-up and their problem and confiscated that kettle until they left the site! :Eek!:
     
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    Hi Dick

    yes indeed, it's nearly 17.5 amps at 230v .. but I'm surprised it blew the site .. it should only have tripped the mcb for that point.. and then only after a few minutes..

    I suspect the site main CB (or was it a main fuse ?) was loaded up to the hilt.. and it was them that got the blame for tipping it over the top.. but you were prudent to relieve them of it until they left .. .. :Laughing:


    Jim
     
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    Hi Jim

    This was in the days when most Caravan Club Sites were fitted with just enough electric for everybody to light one 100 watt light bulb and most people stored their milk in a bucket of cold water under the Caravan. :Eek!:

    It wasn't until Coronation Street came on TV in the evening that we had the problem - 7.15pm almost without a doubt the site would blow - everybody rushing to put the kettle on during the adverts in the middle of "Corry" :thumb:
     
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    Were you the Hitler oops I mean warden in '95 ? :Laughing:

    We stayed at St Agnes site for three weeks that year.. great site.. but no use for RVs .. :Sad:
     
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    Hi Allen

    The only person that I can actually remember who was definitely associated with Park Coppice was Bill Phillips - but he was warden at Kingsbridge (Slapton) when I knew him. We did meet an awful lot of 'names' whilst we were Wardens but as for remembering where and when......... oooooh! :Sad: :Sad:

    Hi Jim

    We were Wardens at St Agnes from the middle part of 1990 to the end of 1996 when we went to The National Trust as Stewards of Killerton House, near Exeter. The only time we were not there was a week in the middle some time when we had Flying Squad in to give us a couple of days break!

    Oh, Oh - did we fall out, or something? :Doh:

    As for not being suitable for RVs - well there was one bad turn at the top of the site which needed a couple of shunts to get through - and most of the pitches are on a bit of a slope but......

    The Caravan Club states that you cannot get anything over 30ft on site

    but I guess that doesn't count the 38ft Monaco Diplomat that has been there for the last couple of years as a seasonal pitch, does it?

    Parked over by the gate leading into John Sawle's site - Beacon Cottage Farm.
     
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    Handheld cordwheel cable storage solution:

    * Easy winding
    * Accepts cable up to 25metres

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