Thatcham cat 1 alarm recommendations anyone

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  1. Bobby22

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    Can anyone recommend a cat 1 motorhome alarm?
     
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    I think the definitive motorhome alarm is the Strikeback. .
     
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    A long way from Scotland to vanbitz........i have studied them but adds£££££ to an already expensive piece of kit.
     
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    Doesn't the strikeback have a cat 2-1 which, if i'm right in saying, isn't suitable for diesel engines........i'm sure @eddievanbitz will enlighten us.
     
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    Mine came with a Sigma S1 alarm on it, think it's been superseded now by a newer model but the Sigma unit seems fine. It is designed more as a car alarm, but works OK for the MH - a zapper activates the central locking on the cab as well as setting the alarm, I've got magnetic switches on all the MH doors (hab + 2 x garage), there's a switch on the bonnet, the cab doors work off the courtesy light switches plus there's two ultrasonic sensors on the dashboard for internal movement.

    Probably the only slightly un-user-friendly bit for a MH is that to set the alarm without the ultrasonics, i.e. for when you're sleeping in the van, you have to turn the ignition on and press the zapper twice. Not exactly arduous, and we don't usually set it when we're asleep anyway, we're normally in locations where we're not too worried!

    I'm sure the Strikeback is better but the Sigma unit seems OK. I've got a little keypad in the corner of the windscreen to manually override the system if the zapper ever packs up unexpectedly.
     
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    Have a look at www.606060.com who do a MH alarm for about half the price of some of the competition. It meets your requirements being Cat 1 and you can add things like an internal siren etc if you want. It has a remote immobiliser and a tracker as part of the system. One of their selling points is they can come to your home and fit the alarm there. If you want to drive to York where they are based then you should be able to negotiate a discount.

    They are coming to my house to fit an alarm to my MH later this month. I've chosen the Titanium version and have added window alarms as well, which are an extra for a smallish charge.

    I'm not an expert but the system seems to offer what I want for considerably less than a certain heavily promoted alternative. :) Theft of MHs is still relatively rare, though it happens, but theft from them is a real risk and I've felt uncomfortable in a few places in Europe when we left the vehicle unattended. With the window alarms, 24 hour monitoring with a message to my phone, plus the internal PIR which we can disable when we leave the dog in the MH it should give me reasonable peace of mind.
     
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    http://www.abacuscaralarms.co.uk/

    When I bought my MH, it only came with one fob. Sam at Abacus Alarms was able to not only provide me with two fobs but also upgrade the previously fitted META alarm for a little extra.

    It was posted back to me straight away.

    I know the OP isnt local, but Sam does mail order too.
     
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    I have had a Strikeback system installed on my 3 litre Fiat Ducato (diesel) since 2007 and can assure you that it works extremely well. You could take a holiday in the south of England and combine it with a visit to Vanbitz. Better to make a long trip once to save your motorhome being stolen than install a lesser product and risk it being stolen.
     
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    The Strikeback is a system designed specifically for motorhomes. How many motorhomes don't have diesel engines?
     
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    Thatcham in Berkshire is the home of the ABI (Association of British Insurers) ‘Motor Insurance Repair and Research Centre’ MIRRC. The engineers at MIRRC (known as Thatcham) test the quality of alarms systems against a given set of criteria. However, although guidelines are issued for the correct fitment of the alarms, there is no ‘policing or checks’ on the installations. Consequently, many ‘Thatcham’ alarms are installed by inexperienced or inept installers who get away with charging good money for poor work. Worse still are the engineers at Thatcham state very clearly that passenger car systems [Cat 1, 2-1, or 3] are not appropriate for installation onto diesel vans. A Category L1, L2-1 or L3 should be specified.

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    @NickNic you may want to read this...........taken from the vanbitz website.
     
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    @eddievanbitz was involved in writing those Thatcham standards for the ABI.

    I think you'll find he knows what he's doing. (y)
     
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    Have you the link to the Thatcham site where what you say is written?

    Edit: just done a bit of digging, Cat 1 just means a combined alarm and immobiliser. It can be fitted to any type of vehicle.
     
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    What I was questioning was your interpretation of the Thatcham standards. I can't find any reference to the type of engine. A 2/1 or 2-1 system basically provides the same protection as Cat 1.

    Another edit. Found a Thatcham pdf which talks about immobilisers for diesel engines which shut off the fuel supply. However, a modern diesel engine can be immobilised electronically so a fuel shut off is not required. The L1 etc types are not the only solution, they are just a sub-set of Cat 1 from my reading.

    As mentioned above, VB know what they are doing.
     
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    It clearly reads in the text that a cat 2-1 should not be used on a diesel van

    The strikeback has a cat 2-1 certificate

    All from the vanbitz site.

    I'm only trying to get myself a cat1 thatcham approved alarm for insurance purposes and the way i read the vanbitz piece looks wrong?.
     
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    Thats incorrect. The Strikeback is an alarm system designed for motorhomes. Most of which have diesel engines.
    You will also find that the Strikeback system is listed as approved by lots of insurance companies.


    Edit: .. hmm I should get one
     
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    I think you are over analysing this. Just ask your insurer if a 2/1 system is acceptable. I think, if they know their stuff, they will say it is.
     
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    Cat 1 is an alarm. Cat 2 is an immobiliser which is factory fitted to all new vehicles.
     
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