Suicidal Cyclists !! (1 Viewer)

[Silver-Fox]

Oh dear, looking at the top of this page I find I am responsible for pushing this to eleven pages.

Can I ask Jim to close this thread before we all fall out with each other? We are not going to agree so let's call it a draw.

There is a much more life-enriching thread elsewhere about toilets I can recommend!

Is it not normally the loosing side offer a draw

 

[jonandshell]

Graham drives a truck so are you saying he is a pratt and he also owns an RV so he is a pratt again.
I can assure you in the RV he has much better vision of cyclists coming up the inside as we are left hand drive.
In the truck they have a warning sign on the back of the lorry saying no undertaking and it has a picture of a
pushbike on it. All he can say is they can not read and are also color blind as he see many shooting across red
lights.

Did this thread not start with reference to an incident on a country road? I see no reference to red lights!

I think you are mixing up sports and country cyclists with city couriers and commuters!

I stand by my opinions, If you don't command road space, a car, van, truck or even an RV will disregard you as another vehicle and not give you a wide enough berth.

I am both a professional driver and a cyclist and mature enough to see this argument from both sides.
People on both sides of this debate are equally to blame for collisions when mutual respect and respect for the law is not observed.

 

[joncris]

I wonder what 207 MPH gravel rash looks like

I suspect more than a rash

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[silverado]

JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE SAT ON THEIR NUTS DOESN'T MEAN THEY CANT BE KICKED IN THEM

 

[SuperMike]

JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE SAT ON THEIR NUTS DOESN'T MEAN THEY CANT BE KICKED IN THEM

Sorry, no idea what you are on about.

 

[paulkearnusic]

Had a similar experience, RV towing a car with a load of lycra clad cyclists hove into view down the narrow Devon roads. Personally, I don't really let it bother me much. There's nowhere I need to be in such a hurry that I would risk anyone's life over - so I probably followed them for a mile or so until I could pull out safely to overtake. It was cold, spitting with rain and grey. I was sat comfortable, warm and dry and they were pumping their bums up and down in the cold and wet. I guess that, on balance, I had the better part of the deal.
Living on the hilly narrow north Devon coast one learns a lot of patience when in the driving seat - especially when driving such a massive vehicle train.

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[thehutchies]

... It was cold, spitting with rain and grey. I was sat comfortable, warm and dry and they were pumping their bums up and down in the cold and wet. I guess that, on balance, I had the better part of the deal.
...

Ah, but they were out there by choice. They could have been at home or in the pub or doing any one of a thousand other things but they chose to be out on their bikes.
The joys of cycling are hard to explain to those who cannot see the light

And, as you say 'There's nowhere I need to be in such a hurry that I would risk anyone's life over' ; that's the attitude that makes everyone's life just that little bit better

 

[paulkearnusic]

Ah, but they were out there by choice. They could have been at home or in the pub or doing any one of a thousand other things but they chose to be out on their bikes.
The joys of cycling are hard to explain to those who cannot see the light

It's like that other great oxymoron in life 'fun run' - now there's two words that should never be seen in the same sentence

 

[Silver-Fox]

Ah, but they were out there by choice. They could have been at home or in the pub or doing any one of a thousand other things but they chose to be out on their bikes.
The joys of cycling are hard to explain to those who cannot see the light

And, as you say 'There's nowhere I need to be in such a hurry that I would risk anyone's life over' ; that's the attitude that makes everyone's life just that little bit better

Why do so many cyclists jump red lights or undertake large vehicles then?

Just a thought

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[thehutchies]

Why do so many cyclists jump red lights or undertake large vehicles then?

Just a thought

Ha!
I'm not falling for that - it's far too beautiful a day to have an argument on the internet.
The sun is shining low on the last of the autumn leaves and I'm just going for a fast ten miles through the forest.

Probably knock over a few deaf old ramblers, crush a few squirrels and disturb the hibernating hedgehogs then burst out of the hedgerow onto the main road and grab a tow from the back of a lorry into town for a ride around the pedestrianised centre.

A day well seized, I'd say

 

[buttons]

Set out from home yesterday in RV with car in tow, all up around 45 ft. C classified quite narrow road , torrential rain, considerable laying water and subsequent poor visibility.
Two cycling enthusiasts in lycra ahead riding two abreast, they didnt look to see who wants to overtake and refused to give up their "right" to half of the road and just moved tighter together.
I hooted more than once and in the end overtook them with reasonable clearance but just how unnessarily dangerous.

And if it had been a tractor with muck spreader behind traveling at the same speed as the cyclists, would this have caused the same anger or something one would expect when driving a 45 ft vehicle and trailer down a C classified road. Are you sure this is not a resentment to young fit males able to look good in Lycra while riding a racing bike.

 

[Judge Mental]

coming to the end if a 6 week stay in Benidorm the other year, with lots of lovely trouble free - no anxiety cycling. Riding back from town, UK motorhome decides to cut me up and nearly had me off. this a 2 a week incident in London, but this individual was towing a bike trailer. + he must have seen me as it was RHD (IF he was using his mirrors )

yet to see even a bad cyclists antics causing the death of a motorist!....

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[Forestboy]

And if it had been a tractor with muck spreader behind traveling at the same speed as the cyclists, would this have caused the same anger or something one would expect when driving a 45 ft vehicle and trailer down a C classified road. Are you sure this is not a resentment to young fit males able to look good in Lycra while riding a racing bike.

They're not all fit young males you see loads of these at the local cycling centre and on the canal tow path.

 

[Larrynwin]

And if it had been a tractor with muck spreader behind traveling at the same speed as the cyclists, would this have caused the same anger or something one would expect when driving a 45 ft vehicle and trailer down a C classified road. Are you sure this is not a resentment to young fit males able to look good in Lycra while riding a racing bike.

If you read my original post Buttons , there was no anger or impatience expressed, it was the fact that in very poor conditions I wanted to give the cyclists the chance of going single file for added safety. I was able to give safe adequate clearance and on a straight piece of road completed the overtake.
What I don't understand is the need for cyclists to refuse to ride single file when conditions dictate, we certainly do when cycling.
What a weird assumption that I resent young fit cyclists, I have reached a mature age perhaps by being considerate to others, with their selfish attitude on the roads they may not.

 

[buttons]

They're not all fit young males you see loads of these at the local cycling centre and on the canal tow path.

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Blimey at first glance I thought that was shifty

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[Silver-Fox]

Ha!
I'm not falling for that - it's far too beautiful a day to have an argument on the internet.
The sun is shining low on the last of the autumn leaves and I'm just going for a fast ten miles through the forest.

Probably knock over a few deaf old ramblers, crush a few squirrels and disturb the hibernating hedgehogs then burst out of the hedgerow onto the main road and grab a tow from the back of a lorry into town for a ride around the pedestrianised centre.

A day well seized, I'd say

You live in London then and must be a bike courier