Stung in Austria (1 Viewer)

[MattR]

We went from Fussen last year via Fernpass & Brenna pass no tunnels and toll free.


They already do pay.

Do cars and vans pay?

 

[Lenny HB]

Do cars and vans pay?

I did say toll free, it is just normal roads.

 

[MattR]

I did say toll free, it is just normal roads.

It was the bit about "they already do pay" that I was responding to.

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[Lenny HB]

It was the bit about "they already do pay" that I was responding to.

You meant in the UK, just HGV's I believe don't know what weight limit it kicks in at.

 

[olley]

You meant in the UK, just HGV's I believe don't know what weight limit it kicks in at.

Came in 1st April 2014, limit kicks in at 12 tons. Might cost you £10 a day I think.

Ian

 

[hilldweller]

Just dug out a paper map. I have clearly marked the road out of Landeck town centre towards Italy so as I said originally, Fussen to Italy is a delight and toll free, but now add "watch out you don't use the Landecker Tunnel".

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[Ridgeway]

Often you can argue your way out of these things in CH and Austria, they are simply are not used to people saying "sorry no I don't accept this, go and get me someone higher up the food chain" you've got to be prepared to stick to your guns and get very difficult and awkward about it. It doesn't always work but I nearly always try this if I feel I have half a chance and that I didn't really understand the situation, if i was clearly wrong then it's my fault and I need to pay up.

Few weeks ago I got a ticket for parking my car the wrong way around in the parking spot. I reversed in as the car is quite large and it's easier to do so. The car well centred and not sticking out but I got a ticket and I didn't know why ? when I found a dragged a parking guy down from his warm office he explained that when you reverse in there's a risk that your exhaust fumes will tarnish the wall at the back and then it will need painting more frequently, no signs nothing but I got a ticket. I followed him back to his office and spent the next 30mins "discussing" the story with him.... eventually he took back the ticket and realised i was going to be a royal pain in his backside and he wanted he gone.....

 

[bladerunner]

On the autobahn they directed vehicles over 3.5t off to a large layby. I was given the green light (I guess because I had a funtioning Go box) but others were stopped. Nearby there were plenty of polizei ready to stop any who had not diverted.

Given a bit of advanced knowledge, the Go box is not too tricky. Have a read on

https://www.go-maut.at/portal/faces...9564D4DE99158A0A46AA.jvm.prd.internet_neu.p01

You can calculate costs on their map function.



p.s. I would not try facing off an Austrian Polizei, they are not noted for their sense of humour!

 

[Deleted member 29692]

When we went through Austria I bought my GoBox at a motorway services in Italy on the way up to the Brenner Pass. I think all the services for about 20 or 30 km before you got there sold both those and the vignettes for under 3.5t

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[gus-lopez]

And cars & vans?

Why would cars & vans pay to use UK roads? You don't have to pay to use roads in other countries unless you choose to use toll roads.

 

[MattR]

Why would cars & vans pay to use UK roads? You don't have to pay to use roads in other countries unless you choose to use toll roads.

How far can you drive in Austria or Switzerland without having to pay? More and more countries charge for driving on their roads -Germany is pending - should the UK tax-payer continue to pay for maintaining roads that others use without paying?

 

[Deleted member 29692]

How far can you drive in Austria or Switzerland without having to pay?

In Austria as far as you like as long as you stay off the motorways. In Switzerland not at all.

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[Allanm]

What annoys me is on the M20 from Folkestone to Dover, there is a 40mph limit with average speed cameras along the road. I stick to the limit religiously, only to be overtaken by foreign registered lorrys and cars who know they aren't going to get a ticket.
Mind you, it's a stupid speed limit, I can't see any reason for it.

 

[SIFTA SAM]

I am aware that a Go Box is necessary if over 3.5 tn, but has anyone also purchased an Emission Sticker for legal display in the cab window?
Or are they for commercial vehicles only?
These coloured stickers denote your Euro Class of engine and have been in force for many months.

 

[Minxy]

If you intend to go in to certain areas/cities then you need an emissions sticker for your vehicle which is issued depending on your engine emissions, not on weight/age AFAIK.

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[Minxy]

Do they weigh you ? Before travelling on the road ?
Silly question , but "Pug" is 3500 but Ralphs going to uprate to 3850 . How will they know ? Would they tell by the registration ? Number recognition type thing ?

When we uprated ours we were sent a new V5c with a taxation class of PHGV but still showing 3500kg so we had to get a new one sent to us (kept the old one ) so now we have one with 3500kg and 3850kg on .... the sticker for 3500kg is on one door frame and the 3850kg on the other ... just have to remember which door to open!

AFAIK they would just want to look at the V5C to check, no vehicle recognition linked back to the DVLA. Most of the time we WILL be below 3500kg anyway so even if they weighed us I doubt we'd have a problem.

Don't forget to use the guy I mentioned for your uprating will you, much cheaper than the other company!

The only DOWN side to all of this is that the new vehicle registration number I bought (WFZ 8708) to put on the camper would only leave us with one V5C at 3850kg so the jury's out as to whether we'll put it on or not, or use it on a car ... or sell it!

 

[SIFTA SAM]

I don't know all the details, but a M/H owner has just received a Euro 240 Fine from ASFINAG for non-display of his Emission Class sticker last year, even though he had provided all his vehicles details in order to purchase a GO Box only two days previous.

 

[Minxy]

I don't know all the details, but a M/H owner has just received a Euro 240 Fine from ASFINAG for non-display of his Emission Class sticker last year, even though he had provided all his vehicles details in order to purchase a GO Box only two days previous.

AFAIK they 2 systems are completely separate so he should have bought the emissions sticker as well, it appears he relied on the Go Box people to tell him.

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[lindylou]

We got stung in Austria too. Purchased the go box but they set it up wrong even though we had handed over all of the paperwork. We are twin axle and they set it for 1. When we noticed we tried to change it but it wasn't possible. Got a 100 euro fine in the post. Called to complain about it and they assured us they would refund it but never got anything back.

 

[iandsm]

Do they weigh you ? Before travelling on the road ?
Silly question , but "Pug" is 3500 but Ralphs going to uprate to 3850 . How will they know ? Would they tell by the registration ? Number recognition type thing ?

They just ask you for your V5 if they want to. Job done and your stuffed

 

[Ralph-n-Bev]

They just ask you for your V5 if they want to. Job done and your stuffed

Ralphs uprated Pug now to 4025kg giving us a 1050kg !
Plenty enough. So we won't have anything to worry about now.

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[Minxy]

Ralphs uprated Pug now to 4025kg giving us a 1050kg !
Plenty enough. So we won't have anything to worry about now.

I'm surprised you couldn't go up to 4250kg as we did - is your base vehicle classed as Fiat Ducato 'Heavy' XLWB with 16" wheels?

 

[Ralph-n-Bev]

Oooops We did Ralph just told me it wrong to write !
We could have gone to 4500 with air ride but he didn't feel the need. Plenty with what we've got. No worries now , in case we get pulled.

 

[rickwiggans]

In Switzerland not at all.

Not sure what you mean here. If you mean you need to pay everywhere you drive in Switzerland, then this is not correct, unless you are over 3500kg. Vignette is required only for motorways. Over 3500kg you pay a daily rate each day you are in the country rate, whether you drive or not.

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