Spain via France etc,etc.

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  1. Kanberlingo

    Kanberlingo Read Only Funster

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    Hi all,

    SWMBO wants to re-connect, early in the New Year, with our time in France when we were Caravanners many years ago.
    But this time, she wants to go down to Southern Spain (Cadiz) area, via France to see our Son, who lives there.

    No maps have been looked at yet, but amazingly my SatNav came up with a route when I, just for a laugh, typed in his address. So, all you seasoned travellers out there, how would you go about it. Time is unimportant. So the advice we are looking for is, Ferry v Tunnel, gas cylinders on the ferry/tunnel? & further supplies en-route. Stop-overs for maybe a week or so at a time (site names, areas etc.) or just 1 night halts. Plus any advice/info/experiences you've come across would be greatly appreciated.:thumb:

    BeeJay
     
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    I went down to Spain in September/October. I travelled from home (Longtown) which is on the Scot's border, via Calais, and the down to Barcelona.

    All was on main roads (except in the UK), and the saving in tolls paid for the fuel. It took around 10 days to get down, all of which were very pleasureable - you get to see much more of the 'rael' France if you stay on main roads.

    We came back a different way, but still via A roads. Mileage was around 3.5K.

    I'd do the same trip again tomorrow, though to be absolutely truthful, I'd rather start from Dover!!
     
  3. Kanberlingo

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    Hi Doug,
    Thanks for the reply. Longtown eh! Would that be the same Longtown that has a CL called Low Moor Head, which we've stayed at a number of times, & has traffic going past doing 100mph:Wink: That's one helluva fast country lane.

    I'm with you on the "Dover" comment. Any continental touring for the likes of us "ooop norf" starts with a marathon drive to get "darn sarf"

    BeeJay
     
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    We are thinking of doing similar some time next year, going to Costa Brava. Well me and the kids like the idea but the better half is not as keen as we drove in the car a few years ago with just one stop over each way which she didn't enjoy and expects it to be the same but I would like to spend a week to 10 days each way travelling although this will be flexable, any recommendations of route/sites/Aires it would be appreciated.
     
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    Hi Beejay

    In January, the weather in France will be to say the least.. bad , I see no point in hanging around France..
    Head down the west coast to avoid the snow, personally would use the toll roads at this time of year.. it's faster and the time gained offsets the fuel wasted slowing down to negoitate endless French villages with a zillion roundabouts.. Winter isn't the time to appreciate the French countryside.

    Dover, Rouen, Le Mans, Bordeaux, San Sebastian, Burgos, Salamanca, Seville, Cadiz

    Not many sites open in France and even fewer through central Spain.. but there are plenty of aires in France. Buy a guide or ask on here about a specific place. There are quite a few that you could use in the Google map in my signature.. take your pick..

    In Spain there are few aires, we usually get off the main road and look for a truck stop cafe .. buy a meal and get permission to stay the night, never had any problems.

    Snow may a problem in Spain.. bon voyage

    jim
     
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    I thought only a woman could make a statement like that.


    Our route this year:

    Calais
    Abbeville
    Rouen
    Le Mans
    Tours
    Saint Maure de Touraine - stop in good free aire.
    Niort
    Pessac
    Biarritz
    Saint Jean de Luz - Stop a couple of nights.
    Vitoria
    Burgos
    Madrid
    Aranjuez - stop two nights
    Jean
    Granada
    Torre del Mar - stop 4 nights

    Then on to Morocco.

    Of that whole run *the* sight is The Alhambra but we've seen it in the past. We have visited Toledo but not this time. Worth a look. Aranjuez has a spectacular palace. The caves at Nerja are worth a visit as is Nerja. Torre is a really nice place to stop.
     
  7. Kanberlingo

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    Brilliant, thanks chaps. Keep 'em coming.

    BeeJay :thumb:
     
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    You could always se the A20 Paris-Limoges-Toulouse-Spain, calling in at where else but Parc Verger (Welcome to Parcverger Limousin) en route for either a stopover (we have some drive-through pitches) or a few days to enjoy a real break. Main thing is if you want to stop at Parc Verger ring ahead to book - were open all year but we have some visitors who enjoy staaying here for months at a time, even during the French winter (which is not that bad!).

    Discount for MHFunsters too!

    Bob
     
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    Would agree with Jim as it being very cold in France early in the year. We went down the beginning of January intending to take our time traveling down. The heater water inlet pipe froze one night with the heater on :Eeek:. Another problem if you use aires, we couldn't find any with the water turned on at that time of the year until we got well down into the south.
     
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    Hi Bob

    down your neck of the woods the winter does seem a bit milder, when we visited in Jan 08 it was very pleasant , quite warm.. so as you say, it's not all bad..

    Looking forward to another visit ..:thumb:

    jim
     
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    For about 5 years we travelled to S/Spain in Feb/March and found on several occasions we were involved with bad weather. Through Le Mans minus 9 deg, another time 4inches of snow through France and part of Spain.
    So now at that time of the year we now use the Bilbao from Portsmouth at about £290 one way and come back via France in May to Portsmouth with LD lines. Working out the cost of the Bilbao 2 day cruise verses road trip (fuel etc) and ferry crossing into France I found only £10 difference. So you pays your money and takes your choice.
    Some go via Dover and pay for the extra mileage, if you do go that way take the east side of Paris on the A7 down to Nevers then Clermont Ferrand and over the top to Beziers. Be warned, via Millau is very cold and the motorway is higher than Ben Nevis so bad weather can be expected.
    Our normal route in the old days would be Poole /Cherbourg, via St Lo, Nantes, La Rochelle (To pick up cheap fuel) Bordeaux and into Spain to Burgos, Madrid. This route is not too bad for weather and its possible, in one day, to be in Spain without rushing.
    Good Luck Ron
     
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    We'll be off to Benidorm (costa blanca) again, leaving on the evening of 26th December!

    This will be the third time we've done it and have previously found France so cold and miserable that we justs drive and drive.

    The first time I did the 1400 miles from my driveway (using the tunnel - courtesy of Sea France who were on strike) to Benidorm in 48 hours. That was in our old Cheyenne with 2.8TD. Second time took it slightly slower - we had travelling companions and took about 60 hours and that was in our new, faster van.

    I would agree with the west coast route but mainly to avoid the eastern side toll roads, the cost of which can mount up. Head for crossing the border at Bayonne/San Sebastian. From there I head for Zarragoza then Valencia then Benidorm whereas you will head south!

    Good luck
     
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    Hey Brian, I resemble that unkind remark:Eek!:

    A £200 saving for a pensioner is nothing to laugh about, that's £200 for the trip back too.

    That's especially true if you've had to make the trip from the Scots border to Dover as well:Angry:

    I feel a certain disonance here:Laughing:
     
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    The way you've phrased that just doesn't quite work for me, it sort of reads, because of "paid for the fuel" it implies money was generated by not spending it. It seemed to be bordering on female or Gordon Brown economics.

    You don't have to convince me about saving money, the Italian Job was shifted into Belgium FFS just to save £50 tolls. You're perfectly right, French tolls double the fuel cost.

    I hope my flippant remark has caused you no long term damage and that you will continue to have you fuel paid for by the magnanimous French toll authorities.
     
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    I can understand people who have a couple of weeks holiday using pay motorways because of time restraints

    but I take it that the vast majority of posters here are not in that category

    so why use them except maybe in inclement times ?

    btw , I live not far from millau on the ..down the centre ...route , and have done so for these many years

    but in answer to the question , for where you are going at the time of year mentioned ....west coast , no alternative
    unless , of course ,you enjoy driving around france the long way round in cold and grey weather , normal in france in the winter
     
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    The highlighted bit is decidedly true.
    A few years ago we took the MH down to Fuengirola through France and found snow around the Pyrenees to be somewhat problematic until we got south of Vitoria. The main roads (autopistas mainly) where OK but anything else had quite a bit of snow.
    We had difficulty camping on our way down through France and then we discovered that the network that our phone had locked on to was out of order. We had assumed that the sites were closed - it was February after all. Hope you have better luck. Of the places to visit on the way down many are on the Ruta de Plata, part of an ancient commercial route from Cadiz into France, now used as a modern pilgrimage route; Segovia (which isn't; has a fine aquaduct), Salamanca, Caceres. Merida, and of course, not to be missed Sevilla worth a few days of anyone's time.

    Heading back how about Cordoba, Toledo and, just south of Madrid it would be worth taking in Aranjuez; all around the palace if lovely.

    Whatever you do have a great time.


    John
     
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    Thanks for that link Jim. Brilliant:thumb:
     
  19. Kanberlingo

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    We're still evaluating all the replies & advice, but France is coming across as a no no in the early New Year. So the ferry crossing of Plymouth/Santander is now coming into the equasion.

    @ Doug, So is it the same Longtown ????????????????? With the CL in Swan Street.

    BeeJay
     
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    you are just as likely to experience snow on that route , people tend to forget that spain is the second most mountainous country in europe after austria , and the motorway over the top out of santander isn't finished yet
     
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