SKY HD in the Motorhome in Spain

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  1. N&K

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    Hi
    We are think about heading to the south of Spain during winter. With the dark cold early nights we are thinking about having some TV available in the Motohome....never had a tv in there yet. I have had a look through the 'TV & SATELLITE' forum but cant see any mention of HD on the move.

    We would like to take our Sky HD box from home (might as well use our subscription), I believe a bigger dish is required for southern spain, can someone recommend which hardware we will require?

    Maybe?:
    90cm Single Satellite Dish > Maplin

    and this HD LNB for the twin cable into the back of the HD box?
    Maplin > A14FB

    Cheers

    N&K :thumb:
     
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    Okay here goes.
    1 You will need a minimum 1.5m dish if you want to recieve all the channels in most of Spain.
    2 You only need a Dual LNB for Sky plus, it is not required for HD
    3 You will need a HD ready TV if you want to watch HD as it should be seen.
    4 The HD is fed to the TV via a HDMI cable, not via the Ariel or Scart lead.

    So you will get your HD channels on a standard system but not in 1080p format and probably not at all with a 90cm dish.:Sad:
    Other than that just take the box and card and all should be well:thumb:
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  3. N&K

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    Thanks Pete

    I didnt realise number 2, makes sense though, I'll get a dual so I can SKY+ as well.
    Was in Comet the other day they have some nice small HD tv's with HDMI so looking good. Thanks for the quick reply :BigGrin:

    Cheer N&K
     
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    with an 80cm dish you will get 50 - 85% of the channels you should get.
    you will not get bbc, itv,c4 on anything less than 1.35m dishes in the south of spain.
    some channels do drop in and out during the afternoons
    a sky HD box has Sky+, so yes two cable feeds will be required if you want to do all the recording functions.
     
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    Have a look on we do digital web site. Iv'e just bough a 20" flat screen with built in DVD, Freeview and HD ready. Its a nice set and works a treat.

    Jim :Smile:
     
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    Further to the need for a 1.5m dish, there are other things to consider.
    If you plan to take a dish that size, you will find that mounting it can create it's own problems, as we get a lot of wind in the the winter in southern Spain.
    Pegging it down is not usualy successful, so a heavy concrete mounting block is the usual method.
    Carrying a 1.5m dish in a motorhome is one thing but I think a heavy concrete block and a steel mounting frame is pushing it.:Eeek:
    I have a 85cm Oyster on the roof and I can get some of the HD channels with that, but as I don't subscribe to HD, only the freebies such as Channel 4 HD.
    BBC and ITV normal channels are out of the question on anything less than a 1.5m dish. ( as previously stated )
    At the site I winter on, there are plenty of people in permanant residence who have the big dish and I rent a connection off my neighbour.
    Works for me:thumb:
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  7. N&K

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    DiSEqC?

    Thanks for all the replies, very useful.

    Can I ask what you guys use for tuning and do you use a DiSEqC motor, or is manual good enough, providing you can secure the dish well enough as mentioned by apxc15/Pete?

    To be honest I might go for an 80cm or 1m dish and take a gamble on which channels I receive the further south we go in Spain, due to logistical reasons and also securing it when its erected. There seems to be a good choice of tripods for this size dish.

    cheers.
     
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    I use a Hama SAT-Levelmeter, or rather I did until I got a motorised dish bolted to the roof. I bought it in Mediamart at a cost of 12 euros, and it does the job nicely.
    Pete
     
  9. N&K

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    Sat Finder

    Thanks again everyone.

    I found this site which is useful, How to use the SatCure Satellite Finder Signal Meter the feature to put in the address and shows the direction of the dish according to satellite you selected is interesting. Could be useful for campsites.
    I have ordered a 1.1m dish, tripod and dual LNB for SKY+. I'll report back when it all arrives. The dish is an ALSAT 1.1 exchanged a few emails with this ebay shop and they did a good deal.
    Cheers
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    Dish Alignment & Magnetic Variation in Europe

    Hi

    The 1.1 dish, tripod and double LNB were delivered on time. After setting them up getting a picture was no problem using the signal finder and a cheap digital compass from ebay. I also bought a 43cm standard sky dish for UK use from ebay £12 with LNB, bargain.

    The direction for Sky Digital was 151-152 degress on the digital compass (180 - 28.2). I was reading about magnetic variation and apparently on the East Coast of Spain I will need to allow for a couple of degrees.

    Magnetic Variation - Hover the mouse over Europe for the variation
    Satellite Footprints by Dish Size - Magnetic Deviation Maps - Europe
    Grid Magnetic Angle Calculator
    Dish Alignment For Sky Digital
    This site says :-
    "Although the orbital position of the satellite is 28.2 degrees East of South, the actual compass bearing will be slightly different. To work out the correct compass bearing you will need to know the magnetic variation of the continent you are on. The variation needed for the UK is about 5 degrees, this will mean for the United Kingdom you will need to align your dish to a compass bearing of about 23 degrees east of south "

    For my postcode the Grid Magnetic Angle Calculator says about 3 degrees. The digital compass I bought has inbuilt distortion measurements, so I am not sure if it had already compensated as I aligned on my existing SKY HD dish and it said 151 degrees as well.

    Not sure if I will even notice this few degrees when aligning the dish on my camping tripod, but its all useful knowledge. Anyway...all interesting stuff, but thanks for the help, I am now up and running.

    N&K
     
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    You may find THIS SITE useful. I use it all the time to get my Camos crabkup tuned in
     
  12. N&K

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    Dishpointer

    Thanks for the link, the site is useful , i posted this link on a previous thread on this post but thanks again, its a handy site :thumb:
    N&K
     
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