Seitz sliding window - fitted upside down?

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  1. jac-in-a-box

    jac-in-a-box Read Only Funster

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    Autotrail Dakota '05....it's laid up for winter and I had a nosey inside to make sure all was well especially given the continual rain we've had for the last few days
    Noticed a small puddle of water at the bottom of the window, no condensation on window is it's not that and couldn't see any wetness at the top of the frame - so it didn't appear to dripping down from above.

    I'm 100% confident it's not water finding its way from outer frame into the van, the window was taken out recently because I found several quite high damp readings around the inner frame, it has been sealed properly.

    Had a look at Leisure Spares site and they have tech information on Seitz sliding windows (I'd post a link but iPad isn't letting me do it!) It shows a "water run off slot" and it's at the bottom of the window. The slot on both my Seitz sliding windows is at the top. This slot appears to be covered by a 2" long black plastic bung, if it wasn't still peeing down I 'd have a better dig around.

    Having another closer look I can see a a very slow water trail coming down the inside of the window on the vertical finishing strip in the middle.

    First thoughts are that the window is fitted upside down, in fact both windows are. However, if the window is removed and fitted what I think is in the right orientation I'll be looking at water being driven into the overlap of the two half's of the glazing panels when driving...difficult to explain, but I guess that's the reason Seitz offer a left and right hand opening window?

    Can anyone shed some light on my problem, assuming you get the gist of what I'm on about!

    The run off slot is fitted in the aluminium channel above (but should be below?) the glazing panels

    Thanks, David
     
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    Both our sliding windows have this at the bottom
     
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    They appear to be upside down but I don't believe that it makes any difference. I installed one of mine upside down as I wanted the sliding part to be at the front. You will often also see them installed vertically on a Rapido.


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    We had the same on our Savannah ,took the black plastic bung out and turned it over.
    Idleness or ignorance at Autotrail,!
     
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    Is the locking button on the top or bottom of the window handle?
     
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    If its anything like a sliding sash window on a house

    The outer slider should be at the top, otherwise water will sit on the join of the two sliders.
    Then when you open water runs into the room
     
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    Seem's yours are in the right place - mine are not!

    Having done a little digging around the bazaars, some appear to have the run off's top and bottom, but most are on the bottom.

    In your case, wanting the sliding part at the front, is that not why Seitz offer left and right hand versions?

    Just pop out the bung and fit the other way round and it'll stop this small leakage? I do hope so...it seems this may have been the problem when I mis-diagnosed seal failure between frame and MoHo body. Pulled and resealed every window thinking if one was failing the others wouldn't be far behind!

    If you're referring to the locking handles/slider grips they're fitted slightly above midway 'tween top and bottom?

    Understand what you're saying- my windows slide side to side, not up and down!

    Thinking some more, the run off slot surely should be at the bottom to drain any water sitting in the runners?
    I'll certainly try reversing the plug but I 'm at a loss, just now, to understand what purpose it serves sitting at the top!
    If it doesn't work I'll try a bead of sealer between the aluminium channel and outer frame.

    Appreciate your replies - your all a helpful bunch, thanks:)

    David
     
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    If you look at them they are shaped too let the water out when fitted the correct way round but if upside down they let the water in and ours were right under the end of the awning housing which funnelled the water in a steady steam!

    Richard
     
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    The slots are in the frame to drain rain water that sits in the bottom of the frame otherwise it can find its way inside, the same as your DG at home holes drilled into the frame under the glazing and then drains between the frame and the cill. As you have worked out yourself they need to be I the bottom of the frame.
     
  10. jac-in-a-box

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    That's both the sliding window drains flipped over...see how they're supposed to work if fitted in the bottom of the window. As they were fitted, more rain catcher than rain drain.

    Stopped raining now, guess I'll have to wait 'till it starts again to see if I've improved matters.

    Appreciate all your comments:)

    David
     
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