Scottish Government agree Loch Lomond camping ban.

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  1. bryandh

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    It appears that the much debated wild camping ban proposed for the Loch Lomond and Trossachs National Park has been approved and will be passed into law in 2017. The delay is, allegedly, to allow time for the creation, provision of low cost camping places to enable a more controlled environment in this area of "special interest"......... Vested interests more like!
    Outrageous decision!


    http://www.walkhighlands.co.uk/news/scottish-government-approves-lomond-camping-ban/0014345/

    Bryan
     
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    Bet that kind of policy soon spreads to the rest of Scotland.
     
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    It'll be interesting to see how many MSP's have a finger in the pie...
     
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    Why should there be any? From what I've seen from the NPA over the last few years (including provision for motorhomes) they have identified a problem and are trying to do something constructive about it rather than just implementing a blanket ban. The problem was mainly caused by yobs from Glasgow in cars and tents but, as mentioned, the NPA has taken the opportunity to address extra provision for motorhomes.
     
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    What is outrageous about it? Just like any other publicly funded body, the NPA can't be expected to keep throwing good money after bad dealing with the behaviour of yobs.
     
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    Hopefully not at least in the near future...
    The problem with Loch lomond area ,is its proximity to the heavily populated area around Glasgow. .. I suspect a lot use it because it is so convenient and have little respect for the area or others...
    As populations grow and people have more leisure time it becomes an issue everywhere ,but Scotland is still a last outpost where for want of a better expression wild camping is largely tolerated
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    If a privilege is abused, even by just a few, it is likely to be taken away from all.
     
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    Agreed. But how do you police a decision like that?? o_O
     
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    Yes, I've heard of no other plans. Indeed (as mentioned in this post) action is likely to be taken only in specific areas where problems are caused by irresponsible people.
     
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    Perhaps if people were to record and report irresponsible behavior (not confront the miscreants) then the authorities could take some action?


    EDIT: Have taken photos and sent to Perth City Council when abuse of their P&R facility spotted. Mind the rubbish and recycle bins were full and overflowing so I didn't hold out much hope of action :(
     
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    The Highland Council policy which I referred to in my last post was only ever a policy of deterrence. That is why they never went to the expense of legal orders to back the No Overnight Parking signs in laybys and in car parks opened after 1996. They relied on abuse not happening through self-policing but (so it appears anyway) they now realise that notices are not needed in most cases because most motorhomers are responsible.

    The problems at Loch Lomond are caused by identifiable yobs and the area is rather smaller so able to be dealt with by Police Scotland.
     
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    Well have opinions on that .. and for what it's worth I think a bit more effort could have been made to prevent abuse of facilities before the present situation was reached... There are rangers employed but never seem to be about to monitor things... It mainly wk end... More phone numbers on display for people to report,but of course we are back to the same thing... They have to turn out at the time... not days later.. Bit like the dog dirt wardens..never there at the correct time yet everyone else seems to know when most of the abuse takes place...
    Just my opinion mind and don't want to start a war lol...
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    No war mate, I agree with you 100%(y)

    2.00 am. "knock KNOCK....Helooooo, I'm a polis officer. ye cana park here, the noo.....Yer will have ta moooooove, reet noo......"!

    "Sure officer, but yee ken, A have drunk a few wee toddies the neet....Can I still drive, the noooooooooooooo....And if I can wil ye jest poot that doon in real writing, if yer can write, that is, yer ken".:)

    (Translation compliments of Google)
     
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    Great thing that Google. Makes the most difficult posts understandable :whistle:
     
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    Wild camping under the right to roam legislation has never included vehicular use. Camping in vehicles is apparently going to be restricted in some laybys but certainly not all. The legislation will only cover about 5% of the national park anyway.
     
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    That's a beach in Greece............Or on the road to Germany...........Isn't it??? :rofl:
     
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    Refugees from Glasgow I think... :LOL:
     
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    Im with him ^^ to many people leaving there crap for others to clear up. Its been happening for years and enough is enough. Yes you may be one of the many who clean as you go but all the other diddys chucking the beer bottles at Nessie is not on.
     
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    This isn't an MH thing and never was (I think). It's pop up tents and carry outs from neds who go up to Loch Lomond and aren't housetrained enough to to tidy up after themselves.. It's the weegie equivalent of driving with your grey waste pipe open or dumping your thetford contents at the side of the road.

    Gibber

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