Scam?

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  1. davejen

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    I have advertized the Hymer on ebay, "sold" last night, buyer wants copy of all 4 pages of V5 so she can apply for a carloan, said the carloan people needed it. Hasn't paid a deposit as asked, and not repklied to 2 emails. What do you think? Am I right to be wary?
    T.I.A. for replies/advice.
    Cheers, Dave:thumb:
    ps, I don't know how these carloan people work, do you? I don;t think it's a logbook loan.

    Also thought you are able to pay for an item you win on ebay?
     
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  2. Nethernut

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    Would definitely be wary!!! Personally I would never give out copies of documentation unless I had jet the people at least.
     
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    I say pay up or go forth and multiply you bid you pay :thumb:
     
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  4. lunarman

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    Personally I would not part with the V5 or copies of it until I had the money in my hand.

    If the buyer wants to put the van up as collaterall for a loan how do you know they will pass the money on to you. My instinct is don't do it walk away.

    John
     
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    would you agree to buy a house THEN apply for a mortgage.....no.

    If you havent removed the ad yet just leave it to run and ignore the idiot buyer.
     
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    Surely the buyer should have the money to purchase the MH before making a bid.
    What if his Lender refuses to give him any or all of the money he wants to borrow?
    What if he's not happy with the condition of the MH, when he eventually sees it, and wants a reduction in the price or makes a claim against you if he finds a problem later?
    I'd be very wary and not part with any paperwork until he's seen the vehicle and you have money in your hand.

    :france::france::france:
     
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    I would definitely be very suspicious and would not part with any details of the vehicles V5. As a matter of interest, what was the 'buyers' feedback score, sometimes another indication they are bogus, such as (0), as its a new eBay account.
    You were certainly right to be wary.
    regards, Lance.
     
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    They bid just before it finished. I will give them till tomorrow and report them to ebay if not sorted. I can't copy the V5 anyway as I've sent it to DVLA for retention of reg no.
    Dave:thumb:
     
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    Feedback over 1000 @ 98.5 % pos and classed as BUSINESS SELLER!!!
    Dave
     
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    I would contact E-Bay now and tell them the situation. I have found they are good at replying. I can't think any loan is going to be sorted out over a Sunday and as others have said, who bids for something without having the money?
     
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    be very carefull as log book loans are on the vehicle and not personal, don't know if they can but sounds as if they are trying to get loan on your van which means loan company may own your van ?
     
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  12. Johns_Cross_Motorhomes

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    Could be a scam of sorts, possible loan on vehicle which would then show up on HPI although with it not being registered in applicants name, the lender would be foolish to lend.

    Possible scaam to get vehicle details to then clone a similiar stolen van

    NO MONEY NO DEAL.

    Peter
     
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    Dont think that would be possible (own the van) as there would be no documentation to prove although I stand to be corrected

    Peter
     
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    It will be very interesting to know the outcome of this story.
    I believe strongly in 'gut instinct', this case is typical of someone taking heed of theirs. The old saying of 'if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is' comes to mind. It works both ways, buying and selling and it's good to see that someone has taken notice of their gut feeling. We may be jumping the gun, time will tell.:thumb:
     
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    Can't until 48hrs after end of sale, so it will be tomorrow night when I contact them (ebay)
    Dave
     
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    Never, Never. Part with any paperwork, until you have the money in your hands. Their only after the paperwork for log book loan, as it is on the vehicle Not the owner. Be very wary !!!!!!
     
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    Money lenders arn't stupid no way would they give a loan on copied documents.
    Dave
     
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    Trouble is, it might not be a legitimate logbook loan company, if that's what it is, but whatever they are doing, it seems to be against ebays buying policy. My advice would be to tell them they need to pay for the van as they won the bid. If they insist on stalling, cancel the bid, block them, report to eBay and realist the van.
    Never part with anything other than reg number so they can sort out insurance, till you have the money.
    Allan
     
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    As I said in an earlier post I don't think it's a logbook loan co, it's called carloans4u-- more like a personal loan to buy a car. I have not sent any copies of anything and will tell them to pay up or I will cancel the sale.
    Dave
     
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  20. Minxy Girl

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    It could be legit ... carloans4u is a broker so they'll find the best loan offers for the customer. On their website under FAQ it says:

    It may be that they need to verify that the vehicle actually exists so they can arrange for a loan to be made available to purchase it - it looks like the vast majority of purchases are for cars from dealers where the money is sent direct to them, so this may be why the purchaser needs copies to prove it is a genuine purchase, remember they will want to ensure that the vehicle is legit and YOU are not a scammer!!! :BigGrin:
     
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