Scam alerts - need for care?

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  1. Touchwood

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    There are a few members on here who are performing a very valuable service in bringing to our attention e-bay scams - but I wonder if in fact they all are? (scams, that is)

    A couple that I've looked at seem pretty genuine to me, with the only doubtful element being a very low price. Whilst I endorse the sentiment that "if it looks too good to be true, it's probably a scam" it's nonetheless also true that bargains do come along from time to time, sellers who haven't researched the market, people in dire straits who desperately need to raise money quickly - I can think of several reasons why this could happen.

    Now - if I were such a seller, and I found that someone was pronouncing my attempt to sell a scam on very little evidence, I'd be pretty annoyed - wouldn't you?

    Not saying that scam exposing shouldn't continue, it's a very valuable service for anyone on here who may be at risk of falling for it (and pretty good fun too) but let's be aware that not everyone out there offering a bargain is a scammer. :Smile:
     
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    Agreed, it would be extremely annoying... but there are usually many other giveaways - usually it's made clear that communication must be via a given email address/mob.number. Often 'free delivery' is offered. Also quite often there are unenglish expressions used like 'free delivery to your house'...
    Feedback, if any, can be doctored. Most MH owners want to get the best price and with Ebay, in my experience anyway, even putting a buy-now price or a highish start-price (as opposed to a reserve) can put many prospective buyers off bidding.
    :Sad:
     
  3. Terry

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    There are (as already been said) a lot more tells than simply no feedback :thumb: indeed if I am unsure I usually ask ?? What other's think :Wink:Lesley and others does a sterling job of both reporting to ebay and phoning so called seller's/getting in touch via e-mail etc and sometimes posting bank details of where, who and when to pay :BigGrin:
    We even have a member who without any thanks or mention on here that reports those details to both the banks and police :thumb::thumb: not that they get to know what happens once reported :Wink::BigGrin:
    You would think that after giving such details etc it would be a simple job for bank, police etc to find, prosecution etc if they could be bothered -so who knows what is going on behind the scene
    Terry
     
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    If anyone is desperate to sell all they have to do providing it is not totaly undesirable, which all of the vans so far advertised have not been, is to phone up motorhome dealers and offer.

    Most of them pointed out, if I had been offered them at those prices, I would have snatched their hands off.

    If its that cheap there is something wrong with the deal, end of story.

    Peter
     
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    Johns_Cross_Motorhomes Trader - Motorhome & Accessory Sales

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    Honest answer, highly likely *** all, same as when I had £20,000 worth of cat converters stolen off vans on forecourt one night. Couldnt be bothered to look at CTV tapes but they can happily sit in the layby targetting motorists.

    Easy meat

    Peter
     
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    And you can guarantee that even if these scam ads are taken off pretty quickly some mug will have noted the email address and will be busily transferring their savings somewhere, most likely through Western Union or suchlike ...
     
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    While I can understand that they would -probably never have to go to the bank again to get at money it must be a very easy job for the bank to freeze the money in the account if the Police gave them info that it was suspected in fraud---that way bank could easy trace who/when people paid money into that account -- never know they may even getthere money back--the account would still be live for the money to be sent to :BigGrin:
    terry
     
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    Through work I have presented various police forces (and even the specialist card crime unit) with enough evidence to walk to than address and arrest the fraudsters sitting there. I even had a copy of a passport belonging to one of these f***ers. Result? Nothing - no action.

    Now I just tweet their addresses to their local police and the Ministry of Justice and ask why they won't do anything.
     
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