RV what`s your opinion.

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  1. wasp

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    I rather fancy a RV I have seen on I like it`s rear engined 6.5 litre diesel, it is oldish but not ancient I know runnin costs might be a bit high as it prob won`t do much more than 12 to the gallon, but is there any other pitfalls. I also realise it aint goin to fit on me drive cos it`s 32ft long an I live up a ded end.What does the team think.:Cool::Cool::Blush::thumb:
     
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    got a link or item number if its on ebay ?

    diesel pushers tend to be on the heavy side and may be over 7500kg...assuming you just have a C1+E licence

    a diesel pusher should be much quieter than a 'FRED'...(front engined diesel) which can be very noisy.
     
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    No John it`s not on E Bay but there is one similarhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1994-Rockwood-Regent-Diesel-Pusher-American-MotorhomeRV-/230619672843?pt=UK_Campers_Caravans_Motorhomes&hash=item35b200f10b but this is a lot cheaper
     
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    Just a few thoughts to ponder..

    One of the few pushers under 7.5 ton ..

    Spartan is good make of chassis .. has proper Graning self leveling air ride suspension ,

    if it's the same chassis as my Georgieboy had, it will have 'air over hydraulic brakes.'

    No mention of make of engine or gear box .. is it a Cummins with Alison auto transmission ? If so that is a well proven and excellent combination.

    Pusher radiators are big and are prone to rusting and cost a fortune to replace .. mine cost £3k + fitting ..

    Tyres.. age as we all know is important .. over 7 years they need replaced.. six times not cheap = a lot

    Brake pads and discs are expensive

    Does it have a spare wheel + tyre

    12mpg is conservative, light foot, decent run and it should be closer to 14 mpg.
     
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    It looks like a 6.5 probably a chevy the box is not listed so not sure but if it is still here when I get back from France I think I will go and have alook
     
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    Yes, you're probably correct, the Cummins fitted to RVs are usually 5.9lt B series, a straight six.. ..
    The Chevy diesel engine is known as the 'haymaker' as it was fitted in a lot of combine harvesters .. tough as old boots but rather noisy and unrefined.. when fitted to a FRED the noise was quite bad .. may be OK hidden under the Queen bed.. :Laughing:
     
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    I think Jim prety much covered it.......certain it ill be the chevy engine sitting in the best Chassis......although I am sure I could have got a Radiator made for less than 3k Jim

    All the best Rick
     
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    The licence entitlement is the first port of call

    The first port of call would be the weight of the RV and if your licence entitlement allows you to drive it.

    You have flagged up a couple of minus points yourself... storage.. 32' is expensive to store in commercial premises.. OK may be on a farm.. but then you do not have power to keep the batteries up (unless you are going to lug them off the RV and take them home).. if storage is on a farm say.. you then have to leave your car there while away... done that my self with one of the A class we had.. real pain. Plus in the winter months no real way to keep the inside warm and dry.

    Others can tell you stories of damage and theft in storage.... been mentioned on here before.

    Yes a pusher is nice.. much less noise... the Spartan chassis is made mainly for fire equipment and is considered one of the best. On our Titan we had a Dodge chassis and it was a bit like a truck chassis... do all we wanted, but wished we had air suspension. brakes can be expensive at times as well. John pointed out the radiator issue. Unless you are in the trade you may find they can be expensive and if in Europe when it goes.. then mega bucks.

    Dependent on age a conventional front engine may be more suitable. Plus you can hear when things do not sound right... OK relying on gauges and the later models have bags of them, but older rigs may not have as many and I like to hear if the engine makes a noise I do not know.. catch it early.

    Takes sometime normally to find the right RV.. myself the last one took 18 months.. we are about to put ours on the market as we are looking for another. But often it takes owning a few to find the right layout that suits you. But I would not be put off by any remarks on here.. yes they are expensive to maintain and do not do a lot of miles to the gallon.. but look at the comfort you get and the space.

    Go for it..

    Bob
     
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    Never had one :BigGrin: never been took by the idea to have one :BigGrin: All the ones I have seen are not that well screwed together inside and the older ones are very tired,both woodwork wise and furnishings :Smile:Why would you want something that is basically too big to move around/visit places apart from driving and parking up.You may as have a caravan.I just do not get the point of them unless you are F/Time and need all the room.You can get some very large euro vans that only cost half as much to run but then again for us they are just too big :Doh::BigGrin: you do get a lot of van for the money but at the same time as it gets older the market shrinks and you will loose a lot :Wink: unless you find another person thinking along the same lines as you :BigGrin:
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    WELL SAID TERRY BUY BRITISH YOU DON'T NEED THE AMERICAN C**P ALL YOU NEED IS A PLACE TO EAT,SLEEP AND RELAXE IN.THEY ARE TO BLOODY BIG.TO EXPENSIVE TO RUN
    AND YOU NEED PLENTY OF MONEY TO KEEP THEM ON THE ROAD.P.S IT'S A BRITISH THING
     
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    wow put your claws back in now guys:Laughing::Laughing:
    brian:RollEyes:
     
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    My thoughts are for Wasp :BigGrin: to sum up again IMO too big,too expensive to run,not that well screwed together and on older vans too tired.:BigGrin::Wink: edit too much money to loose :Wink:
    terry
     
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    never mind the quality feel the width

    But what comfort you get.

    Bob:Blush:
     
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    No Bob :Smile:the comfort is just the same in my van all you get is room/size which in most cases is too big :Rofl1::BigGrin::Wink:
    terry
     
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    depends what you mean by comfort......

    fully sprung and cushioned couch as opposed to a 3" thick slap of foam on a ply bench.

    fully sprung domestic full sized mattress as opposed to a mix of various seating cushions or a couple of inch's of foam on ply in an overcab.

    usually a proper domestic rocker/reclining chair

    a proper dining table and padded free standing chair.

    large, comfy driver and passenger seats, designed for American fat arses.

    full sized domestic cooker/hob...none of your 'made to fit a motorhome' European stuff

    10 GALLONS of hot water instead of 10 LITERS.

    the ability to pass each other without one having to sit first.

    the list goes on.
     
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    If you take away the drivers seat that sounds like my house!
     
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    The biggest falacy is running costs and depreciation factors
    RVs do not depreciate at anything like the rate of an A class European motorhome
    The bang for buck is at least 4 x that of an Eurpean A class at half the price
    Running costs are as always relative
    I wish i could find the my old post re RVs pulling a toad -V- Europeans without a toad running every where in the Motor home, too close to call,in fact im sure my maths over a 3000 mile trip put the RV / Toad in front average MPG wise:Wink:
    You would need to spend at least 25-30 K more to own an A Class with anything like the comfort of an RV
    I could run my RV for 10 Years just on the savings alone:Doh:
    Despite what Bob says ther'e not expensive to maintain either, service cost are comparable, and they dont need cambelts and wheel bearings every 13000 miles:Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1:
    Or engines if there Mercs:Cool:
    You Pays yer Money as they say
     
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    Yes it doesTHE ABILITY TO PASS OTHER VEHICLES OTHER THAN ON m/w and pass garages :Wink: OOOPS forgot RVs have massive fuel tanks :Doh: that cost a fortune to fill :Wink:Then we can start on getting in /out/parking in towns etc,and getting on any sites without forward planning etc etc :BigGrin:Also the ability to drive down to the shops etc without having to have a toad :Doh:You may as well have a caravan or a fith wheeler:BigGrin:
    At the end of the day most vans have the same things in them IE seats, beds, cooker, loo, shower, heater, etc,the only thing a RV has is SIZE AND THAT IS NOT ALWAYS WELCOME :BigGrin::Doh::moon::reel::reel::hardhat:
    terry
     
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    As always, everybody makes their choice. But as Geo ,in my opinion there is no comparison.

    Purchase price, in our case a 10m RV £100k on the road. We spent a long time making sure the layout was right, and with it's modifications to suit my wifes disabilities, we have no intention of ever changing it. Bought new with 0 miles on the clock, I will pamper it to make sure it lasts. 18 months old now, it has had one service which was about £189 which included all the usual stuff and a chassis lub.

    Since purchasing it it has cost nil in any repairs, not that I would have paid because it was new, but simply because nothing has gone wrong.

    Lots of room, almost house like facilities and an orgasmic buzz when driving it.
    An engine, transmission, cruise control and power steering to die for. :Wink:

    Done caravans, then Management said that they will no longer do.
    Looked at Euro Ice Cream Sheds and they are so below parr that they were knocked out of court with only one day of looking. Appalling is the word. And, I thought British caravan assembly and manufacture was bad. :Sad:

    There simply is no comparison. I recently answered a thread about levelling, where there was all sorts or answers, mine being " I push button ". :Rofl1:

    :coolthumb: That is what an American RV is all about. :coolthumb:​

    :Cool: But as ever, one camp, will never convince the other. :Cool:​
     
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    Do europeans have slide outs?

    Do europeans have slide outs? not sure if any RV does not have a roof air con and dash air con as standard.

    Bob
     
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