Running fridge while wild camping

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  1. Lizi

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    Probably a silly question that i should know the answer to but anyway - if camping without hook up do we run the fridge off gas or 12v? We are off to Scotland on Wednesday for our first trip longer than 2 nights and just trying to think of everything we should ask before we go. Any other tips welcome!
     
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    Gas - the 12v won't work without the engine running. :)
     
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    Thank you. Another question - what is the solar panel for?
     
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    The solar panel will help to keep your batteries topped up.

    Depending on your set-up it will definitely keep the leisure battery topped-up and if it has a relay/link it will also keep the engine battery topped-up too, usually once the leisure battery is full.

    What size panel is it and how many/what size of leisure battery have you got?
     
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    Solar panel charges your habitation batteries ....

    Fridge on gas is the most economical....
     
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    to charge the leisure battery
     
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    Don't worry you won't need it in Scotland.

    But more seriously, it generates power from the sun to top up you batteries. It won't generate a huge amount at this time of year even here in the south but it will help.

    Do you know what capacity panel you have? It could be for example 80 or 100 watts.
     
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    I cant remember the details of the solar panel and info in the van. So the leisure battery will run the lights, water pump etc? We have only used it on hook up so far.
     
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    Worth finding out for future reference. The leisure battery normally runs everything when off electric hook up but the solar panel will help keep it topped up. You can but see how long you last but don't let the batteries fall below 12 volts if you can help it. They will go lower but you risk damaging them permanently if they go too far. Start the engine if necessary.
     
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    Yes, but not indefinately.
    You have to learn to be frugal with battery power.
    Only use what lights etc you need, dont have them all lit as you might on mains hookup.

    If you intend staying put for more than a couple of days you will need some method of recharging, and as already said, the solar panel wont cope at this time of year.
     
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    Sorry about the funny, but I thought I was an innocent, hurrah someone worse(y)
     
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    A lot depends on how many and what size leisure batteries you have. Worth finding out.

    Lots of things will need to use your battery power while off hook up, charging phones etc, toilet pump, water pump, heating.
     
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    You should take your EHU lead with you so that you can book into a site to recharge your batteries if necessary. Depending on your set up and usage they could be flat after a few days. And thanks to this site I have learned you are not supposed to let your batteries discharge more than 50 %.
    Enjoy Scotland, weather is fine today :)
     
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    Remember your 240v sockets will not work unless you have a built in inverter
     
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    Please remember that flat or discharged batteries will take 2/3 days on EHU to fully charge using your on board charging system (that's providing you are not drawing power from them) and NOT 24 hours or less as many seem to think.............
     
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    Very helpful advice, I assumed wrongly that overnight would be enough to fully recharge the leisure battery.
     
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    We've a 12 volt fridge. We rarely have hook up , so Ralph took this into consideration when looking for one to fit in Pug.
    It's ever so good, mind you cost more than the one we have in the kitchen at home.:doh:
     
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    You can make your cassette last longer between emptying ( and conserve batteries and fresh water a bit) if, instead of flushing every time you use it you have a bottle of water with a trigger top handy , with a bit of something smelly in it ( aromatherapy oil, Dettol, whatever) and give the bowl a good squirt after using it.
     
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    Whilst nearly every MH now has a battery charger of sorts what happens is it will start at around 6 or 8 amps at 14.4volts (Charging) for perhaps 1, 2 hours, thereafter that same the charger drops amps and voltage to 13.8 (topping up) to 1 or 2 perhaps 3 until battery returns a voltage to say enough. The voltage of 13.8 is NOT charging the battery (topping up) and therefore the next day when you draw amps it seems that the voltage drop is quicker over the day. If however you have a smart charger (something like a CTEK) it charges at 14.8 or sometimes higher then drops voltage slowly over a period of time and every now and then sends voltage up to 14.8. This in simple terms is conditioning (3/4stage). The best thing you can buy is a good 3/4/5 stage charger (pay good money - get good kit) and your batteries will last for years. Even when your not using your MH you should have the batteries on charge.
     
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  20. Ralph-n-Bev

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    Great idea. We shall do that from now on , when wilding.
    Thanks (y)
     
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